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February 25th, 2005, 09:05 PM

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Depot says: (19:23:21)

***jeff?

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:23:29)
***yes
Depot says: (19:23:32)

***depot

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:23:36)
***How are ya doing
Depot says: (19:23:42)

***fkn ****ed

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:23:52)
***why is that lol
Depot says: (19:24:10)

***got injured at work yesterday bad.. on perks and absolutely messed up

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:24:20)
***ah,what is it you do for work?
Depot says: (19:24:33)

***this month commercial eletric

Depot says: (19:24:44)

***fell 20 feet when ladder gave out onto concrete floor

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:24:54)
***ah, that really sucks
Depot says: (19:24:54)

***http://www.zookpower.ca/forums/showthread.php?p=20792#post20792
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:25:33)
***did u fill out your wsib form?
Depot says: (19:25:43)

***cash job

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:25:51)
***ah, that's even worse then
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:26:24)
***I read that post on another thread I beleive
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:26:30)
***I just wanted to clarify on it a lil
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:26:41)
***Hey is the site a suzuki tracker site?
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:26:53)
***suzuki/tracker
Depot says: (19:26:54)

***i just replied to it

Depot says: (19:27:03)

***its a suzuki site

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:27:28)
***kewl, my cousin had a samurai she bought from her sister
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:27:30)
***then she rolled it
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:28:46)
***Ok so I read up on the post. My truck registered to me personally has a GVWR of 5171 meaning I need to get the yellow sticker right
Depot says: (19:28:55)

***automatically

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:29:11)
***so the dealer should know that then meaning they won't be able to register it as less right
Depot says: (19:29:34)

***no

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:29:37)
***they'd go in and have the mto say no no no lol
Depot says: (19:29:40)

***u can register it at 3000 kg

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:29:44)
***oh ok
Depot says: (19:29:55)

***registered weight dont mean shit

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:29:59)
***but if I get an over zelous mto officer pulling me over
Depot says: (19:30:18)

***if ur atcual, registered or GVWR is over 4500 then u need a yellow

Depot says: (19:30:25)

***the 3 have nutin to do with each other

Depot says: (19:30:56)

***BUT!!!!

Depot says: (19:31:03)

***u have to be really carefull here....

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:31:06)
***K, when I look up the info on the truck http://gmcanada.com/english/vehicles/2005/gmc/sierra/sier_mode05.html it says it there
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:31:09)
***ok sorry go on
Depot says: (19:31:11)

***example...

Depot says: (19:31:21)

***my truck = 2002 gmc sierra 3500

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:31:28)
***ah same as mine lol
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:31:32)
***I have a 2005
Depot says: (19:31:36)

***on my reg papers it shows an actual wieght of 2974 KG

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:31:43)
***ok
Depot says: (19:32:02)

***in reality, my truck weight 3400 KG without any load full of diesel, me and my stereo

Depot says: (19:32:49)

***when I bought truck, delaership registered it for 3000 kg.. OPP splained to me when I got popped that as soon as I sit my fat ass inside it, Im overweight.. 2974 plus my weight is more than 3000.. so im overweight.. 300 dollar tickey

Depot says: (19:32:52)

***ticket

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:33:04)
***ok
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:33:09)
***So that being said....
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:33:19)
***I should get the truck registered for higher then?
Depot says: (19:33:42)

***they also splained that that 2974 # is not realistic.. its an average for that truck.. not counting extras like diesels, ac, and other shit

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:33:51)
***ok
Depot says: (19:34:25)

***what I would do is get ur truck weighed... fill it full of fuel, and all fluids and take it to a weigh scale.. even a garbage transfer station and find out what u really weigh

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:34:36)
***ok
Depot says: (19:34:51)

***my turck is registered or 4000 kg in the winter which is enough to cover me undr most situations without a trailre

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:34:51)
***I have a depot (lol) I use in pickering for hauling garbage
Depot says: (19:35:00)

***lol

Depot says: (19:35:09)

***thats only funny cause im stoned on perks! LOL

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:35:14)
***I know
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:35:17)
***I figured as much lol
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:35:26)
***any other time it would of been a "oh god"
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:35:27)
***lol
Depot says: (19:35:52)

***lol

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:35:58)
***So I find out my actual weight of the truck and then re-register at the actual weight
Depot says: (19:36:37)

***no... give urself some room.. say u pick up 500 pounds of material ur taking to job site.. ur registered weight must include all that

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:36:53)
***ok good point
Depot says: (19:37:22)

***my rig.. fulloaded loaded with trailer, 2 zuks, ppl, tools parts etc.. is just over 8000 Kg.. so i register at 9000 to give me room to play when I take a bit extra

Depot says: (19:37:39)

***the increments are 500 or 1000 kg, i ferget

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:37:47)
***ok so when you register at the higher level, you have to pay additional fees
Depot says: (19:37:52)

***$$ is same for 4700 kg or 4999

Depot says: (19:38:03)

***yep.. ur sticker is more expensive

Depot says: (19:38:10)

***normal i what 90 bucks a year?

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:38:12)
***now they just charge the difference
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:38:23)
***I think my sticker was $72
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:38:30)
***Id have to check I just got one for my 1/2 ton
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:38:33)
***$76
Depot says: (19:38:34)

***thats right.. 9000 Kg is about 350 a year

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:38:35)
***something like that
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:38:48)
***so right now you are rated at half that
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:39:05)
***so do you go in and say I want to re-register at 9000 and they charge u the difference?
Depot says: (19:39:19)

***my b-day is november.. so when i renewed, i dropped it down to 4000 kg for the winter.. to save $$ and keep me outa CVOR range

Depot says: (19:39:23)

***yes

Depot says: (19:39:48)

***and u ahve to pay for the full year or 2.. whatever ur current sticker is for and they charge u 10 bucks for the change

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:39:48)
***do they need to re-inspect each time u go in?
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:40:11)
***Ok, now I'll probably end up towing a trailer come summer, car, work and what not
Depot says: (19:40:18)

***u go to a drivers office or whatever its called.. they dont inspect shit.. u give em $$, they give u papers

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:40:25)
***and my birthday is January and my plate was good to 06
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:40:32)
***haha
Depot says: (19:40:42)

***so u gotta py for increase upto jan 06

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:40:45)
***what range do u hit that puts u into the cvor
Depot says: (19:40:55)

***4500

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:41:24)
***so when you register at 8000 for towing, you then have to apply for a cvor correct?
Depot says: (19:41:34)

***I already have a cvor

Depot says: (19:41:38)

***its free

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:41:51)
***and no matter if u drop your weight or up it,y ou always have it
Depot says: (19:42:02)

***when u chnge ur registration, they dont care.. u give em $$, they give u papers.. cvor is another branch

Depot says: (19:42:17)

***u do not even have to have a vehicle to get a cvor

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:42:29)
***ok, so I should get it regardless then
Depot says: (19:42:39)

***yes.. takes 4-6 weeks

Depot says: (19:42:49)

***u can get cvor apps at liscence places

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:43:00)
***ok, now u need it before you have a vehicle registered over 4500
Depot says: (19:43:48)

***u can register the vehicle at anything u want.. they dont care.. covr or not.. different departments.. but if u get busted registered over 4500 and dont have a cvor.. thats a nother 300$ ticket

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:44:06)
***ok, so I should register at say 4000
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:44:13)
***apply for my cvor
Depot says: (19:44:24)

***u can reg ur truck at 800 KG.. apply for a cvor.. keep a copy of ur application with u and if u get stopped, u'll be ok

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:44:26)
***then if I'm going to tow a trailer then I up my weight
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:44:39)
***800?
Depot says: (19:44:42)

***8000

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:44:49)
***ok lol
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:44:58)
***now does your trailer also need a sticker?
Depot says: (19:45:04)

***u do realize whats involved with a cvor dont u???

Depot says: (19:45:09)

***no, trailers have no stickers

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:45:15)
***I've started reading up on it
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:45:18)
***ok
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:45:28)
***I thought I read something bout the trailer needing a yellow sticker
Depot says: (19:45:34)

***yes

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:45:36)
***I read up on the cvor on mto's ste
Depot says: (19:45:37)

***ur right

Depot says: (19:45:46)

***i thought u meant plate sticker

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:46:00)
***no no lol
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:46:02)
***yellow sticker
Depot says: (19:46:03)

***if ur truck has a yellow, any trailer u connect to it MUST have a yello too

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:46:04)
***stoner
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:46:10)
***ok
Depot says: (19:46:15)

***FU!!! im in a lot of pain

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:46:16)
***now I'm understanding lol
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:46:26)
***sorry man, still need to take a shot at ya though
Depot says: (19:46:49)

***shoot me when im straight.. then I'll shoot yah back :P

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:46:55)
***ok
Depot says: (19:47:01)

***hang on amin... i give u some links

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:47:04)
***K
Depot says: (19:47:16)

***http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/trucks/regulations/annual.htm
Depot says: (19:47:24)

***http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/trucks/regulations/hours.htm
Depot says: (19:47:30)

***http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/trucks/regulations/daily.htm
Depot says: (19:47:37)

***http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/trucks/regulations/trailers.htm
Depot says: (19:47:43)

***http://www.mto.gov.on.ca:80/english/trucks/regulations/daily.htm
Depot says: (19:48:12)

***this one tells u how much stickers are....

Depot says: (19:48:13)

***http://192.75.156.68/DBLaws/Regs/Images/628s01au.gif
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:48:25)
***Ok so
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:48:46)
***If I'm driving around town, home to work and its less then 160km I don't need to fill out a book
Depot says: (19:49:41)

***if ur truck returns to its home base within the 24 hour period AND u have to be able to prove u havnt exceeded ur alloted hours for work and that includes ur office job too eh!!!

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:49:57)
***ok
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:50:21)
***so I get up in the morning 9am go to work then go home at 3pm, then go back out at 10pm and come home at 1am, I'm ok?
Depot says: (19:50:21)

***brb

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:50:24)
***k
Depot says: (19:57:38)

***back

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:57:47)
***kewl
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:57:51)
***Here's a question
Depot says: (19:57:58)

***ok... work at 9 am... what time u leave ur house at?

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:58:08)
***I leave at 9
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:58:23)
***I'm self employed
Depot says: (19:58:24)

***ok.. so u start ur pre trip inspection at 8:30 am

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:58:26)
***I start whenever
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:58:41)
***now I do an inspection everyday regardless or only over 160km
Depot says: (19:58:43)

***minimun 15-20 minutes for a pretrio

Depot says: (19:58:57)

***u must do a pretrip every 24 hours no matter what

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:59:04)
***that sucks lol
Depot says: (19:59:06)

***unless ofcourse u aint driving

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (19:59:19)
***Ok
Depot says: (19:59:20)

***so ur "shift

***" strats at 8:30 am

Depot says: (19:59:39)

***so, on-duty not driving - 8:30 - 9 am

Depot says: (19:59:53)

***on-duty drving for what 1/2 hour to get to work?

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:00:06)
***sure
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:00:10)
***usually a lil less
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:00:25)
***round numbers work better
Depot says: (20:00:29)

***rules ay u can drive - actually drive for 13 hours a day

Depot says: (20:00:35)

***and u can work for upto 15

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:00:38)
***ok
Depot says: (20:00:51)

***so ur 1/2 hour pretrip ****s towards the 15 limit

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:00:57)
***So do I record every time I get into the truck and drive it and then when I stop driving?
Depot says: (20:01:08)

***when u stop for gas, thats on-duty - not driving.. still counts towards ur 15 limmit

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:01:26)
***if I go to work, stay at work for 2 hours then leave again
Depot says: (20:01:29)

***log books, u record when ur working and when ur driving

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:01:39)
***Ok so for example
Depot says: (20:02:15)

***so with ur example.. 1/2 hour goes to pretrip.. 1/2 hour goes todriving, 6 hours goes to on duty not driving, then another 1/2 hour goes to driving when u go home

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:02:17)
***8:30am-9am On duty
***9am-9:30am driving
***9:30am-11am on duty
Depot says: (20:02:30)

***hang on

Depot says: (20:02:39)

***there are 4 catagories in a log book

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:02:43)
***do I record totals for the day or each individual trip when I'm driving
Depot says: (20:02:44)

***off-duty

Depot says: (20:02:53)

***on-duty - not driving

Depot says: (20:03:01)

***on-duty driving

Depot says: (20:03:06)

***off-duty sleeper berth

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:03:25)
***so each time you fill in the time then
Depot says: (20:03:30)

***yep

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:03:34)
***sleeper birth would be me at home in bed right
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:03:49)
***so Off duty-sleeper birth 11pm-8:#0am
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:03:57)
***8:30am
Depot says: (20:04:03)

***u have a sleeper berth in ur truck?

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:04:16)
***no lol
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:04:28)
***haha, the front seat lol
Depot says: (20:04:30)

***if ur at home or hotel or whatever, then ur off-duty completely

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:04:40)
***so the sleeper birth would never be filled out
Depot says: (20:04:53)

***carefull.. there are very strict requirements for berths.. front set or back seats dont qualify

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:04:54)
***unless I had a co-pilot driving and I was sleeping for 2 hours on duty or such
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:05:02)
***oh ok
Depot says: (20:05:14)

***not unless u had a seperate compartment void of light and a bed for a berth

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:05:17)
***so I would never have a sleeper berth entry
Depot says: (20:05:28)

***for ur truck, nope

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:05:40)
***So at 11pm, I would be off duty
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:05:51)
***then 8:30am I would be on duty again
Depot says: (20:05:56)

***lemem scroll back and reread ur example

Depot says: (20:06:15)

***9-3 and 10-1

Depot says: (20:06:31)

***ok.. 8:30 to 9.. on duty not driving - thats 1/2 hour

Depot says: (20:06:44)

***9-9:30 on duty driving - nuther 1.2 hour

Depot says: (20:06:58)

***9:30 to 1 on-duty not driving, 3.5 hours

Depot says: (20:07:06)

***1-1:30 on duty driving

Depot says: (20:07:32)

***1:30 - 10 pm.. off duty 8.5 hours.. u just got ur manadoty 8 hour miniumum rest period in tehre

Depot says: (20:07:43)

***10-10:30 on duty driving

Depot says: (20:07:53)

***10:30-1 am, on duty not driving

Depot says: (20:07:58)

***1-1:30 on duty driving

Depot says: (20:08:08)

***1:30 - 87:30 am, off duty

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:08:16)
***ok I understand
Depot says: (20:08:21)

***add all that shit up and conform to the rules

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:08:24)
***so everytime I get into the truck and drive I need to record it'
Depot says: (20:08:31)

***uhhuh

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:08:49)
***each day is measured from 0001-for 24hrs
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:08:54)
***0001hrs
Depot says: (20:09:17)

***log books are measured in increments of 15 minutes starting at midnight

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:09:28)
***oh ok
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:09:33)
***so if I went out to a club
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:09:50)
***I'd be off duty then when I got back into the truck I'd be on duty again driving
Depot says: (20:09:57)

***yep

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:10:09)
***and the 15 hrs are for a 24 hour period starting at 12am
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:10:23)
***so anthing I record after 12am applies to the next day
Depot says: (20:10:59)

***the hours start at whatever time u start... the rules apply to ANY time period taking into account that osme of us work day shift, some nites, etc etc

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:11:14)
***oh ok
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:11:29)
***so if I start at 8:30am then its 24 hrs from there
Depot says: (20:11:31)

***A driver may not drive a truck or bus after,

***having driven for 13 hours, or

***having been on duty for 15 hours,

***without first taking 8 consecutive hours off duty.

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:11:52)
***ok
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:12:05)
***so what u are saying is its a pain in the ass everytime I get into the truck
Depot says: (20:12:09)

***there is no rule about segreating into 24 hur periods

Depot says: (20:12:46)

***if u work for 6 hours, take a rest ofr 8 hours off duty, then u can take a full 15 hurs of work (13 driving) b4 u must take another rest

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:13:00)
***ok
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:13:05)
***I think I understand now
Depot says: (20:13:06)

***heres the catch...

Depot says: (20:13:08)

***A driver may not drive a truck or bus after having been on duty for,

***60 hours in 7 consecutive days, or

***70 hours in 8 consecutive days, or

***120 hours in 14 consecutive days.

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:13:37)
***so I work 7 days a week
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:14:06)
***Can I not be off duty while at work?
Depot says: (20:14:33)

***nope cause ur working! CVOR doesnt care what work u do.. work is work and it affects ur rest

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:14:46)
***haha ok
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:15:02)
***so right now because you are under the limit, u dont have to conform to the cvor rules right
Depot says: (20:15:08)

***right

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:15:20)
***ok
Depot says: (20:15:58)

***but if i get busted pulling even my small trailer and they weight me and Im over my 4000 KG reg weight, im charged 300 bucks for ebing overweigh and my truck and trailer gets impounded till i fix things

Depot says: (20:16:11)

***thats gets expensive fast

Depot says: (20:16:23)

***the first time I got busted, i got over 2G's in tickets

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:16:31)
***so u learnt fast then eh
Depot says: (20:17:20)

***thats why I spent soo much time researching and teaching others

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:17:22)
***now if I travel to the states, I keep logs for that as well?
Depot says: (20:17:39)

***haha... new rules

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:17:42)
***damn
Depot says: (20:17:47)

***DOT

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:17:50)
***I go to the states 4 or 5 times a year lol
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:17:56)
***Ok DOT
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:17:59)
***lets hear it
Depot says: (20:18:03)

***hagn on.. i got DOT links here somewhere.

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:18:09)
***haha
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:18:12)
***hey let me ask you
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:18:48)
***say i'm not working on the weekend but I'm out driving the truck...do I just record my driving times? and on duty in between with no work hours
Depot says: (20:19:02)

***if ur driving.. its work

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:19:06)
***ok lol
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:19:17)
***I just won't have actual stretches of working but not driving times
Depot says: (20:19:32)

***i.e. driving to a party.. 1/2 hour pre-trip.. plus time that drive actually took.. at the party its off-duty time.. drive back home is on-duty driving

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:19:55)
***It becomes a lot of work doesn't it?
Depot says: (20:20:44)

***my log book is fkn funny... pre-trips everyday.. 15-30 min of driving.. then most of the day off duty... I splained to inspection officer that Im a landlord.. i drive to one of my buildings and sleep all day in the ffice.. total bs but it works

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:21:17)
***haha
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:21:31)
***so me being self employed, any time I go home I'm off duty
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:21:47)
***antyime I'm at one of my business's Im working
Depot says: (20:22:09)

***its this simple... if ur working.. then its work.. if ur at home downloading pron or what not.. ur ofduty

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:22:27)
***so if I go home for 4 hours off duty then go back in the truck to drive
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:22:36)
***am I back to doing a pre-inspect
Depot says: (20:22:50)

***pre-trip is good for 24 hours

Depot says: (20:22:58)

***no matter who rives the truck

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:22:59)
***ok good
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:23:15)
***So everyday at 8:30am till the next day
Depot says: (20:23:22)

***yes

Depot says: (20:23:41)

***i.e. I d snowplowin in the winters... the turck i drive is regisred for 6000Kg

Depot says: (20:24:35)

***we work for upto 48 hours some nites with different drivers.. as soon as 24 hours passes another pre-trip inspection must be dun. Driver and Company each get tickets if it aint dun

Depot says: (20:25:01)

***but then the truck sits for a week or 2 without moving.. no pretrips no nuthing dun, till the next time we go out

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:25:12)
***ok
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:25:27)
***now I got all mixed up again lol
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:25:36)
***what does the 160km cover again
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:25:36)
***lol
Depot says: (20:25:50)

***lol... ok... lemme try this way....

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:25:57)
***ok wait
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:25:59)
***I got it
Depot says: (20:26:15)

***there are 2 crucial factors in a cvor.. pre-trip and log books

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:26:17)
***no I don't lol
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:26:30)
***k
Depot says: (20:26:49)

***a pre-trip msut be dun every 24 hours (unless truck aint being used)

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:27:13)
***ok
Depot says: (20:27:15)

***log books are mandatory if the truck in question travles outside of 160 Km rdius of the home base

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:27:15)
***understood
Depot says: (20:27:30)

***for example.. going from toronto to nova scotia

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:27:58)
***ok understood
Depot says: (20:28:11)

***In order to excempt urself from keeping a log book, the truck can not exceed that 160 radius (as the bird flies) from its home base AND it must return to the home base everyday

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:28:21)
***Ok
Depot says: (20:28:32)

***this save delivery companies that run around all day deleivering shit in To from wasting time with log books

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:29:02)
***ok so everyday I go I never go more then 160 or more then 15 hrs
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:29:10)
***so I wouldn't worry about filling the log book out
Depot says: (20:29:18)

***brb

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:29:27)
***k
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:33:51)
***Log book over 160km or 15 hours before returning home and pre inspection regardless of distance every 24 hours, got that lol
Depot says: (20:34:16)

***yes BUT 1 more thing

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:34:26)
***but its the government, of course there is more
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:34:27)
***lol
Depot says: (20:34:41)

***I dont keep a log book during the summer cause most itmes Im within my 160 and home everynite

Depot says: (20:35:11)

***but on weekeds when i go wheeling or go out east or whaterv and I dont get home with 24 hours or exceed my 160 then I must have a VALID log book

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:35:27)
***ok
Depot says: (20:35:32)

***in order for a log book to be VALID it must show at LEAST the preivous 7 days

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:35:40)
***so in other words
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:35:48)
***fill the book out everyday regardless lol
Depot says: (20:36:04)

***it makes life easier in the long run

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:36:08)
***yes
Depot says: (20:36:36)

***if u ever et into an accident and ur under a cvor.. the investigation is intense.. they will find out if u faked ur books and will charge u heavily

Depot says: (20:37:07)

***they are very picky on hours of operation

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:37:23)
***so just keep filling the book out to avoid anything not quite right
Depot says: (20:37:24)

***u have to keep in mind that when u enter cvor range.. u r a big rig

Depot says: (20:37:29)

***yes

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:38:00)
***so do I need to get weighed each time?
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:38:04)
***loaded or unloaded
Depot says: (20:38:17)

***there are a few exceptions that will allow u to drive/work longer under certain circumstances but u have to have a good log book and records to qualify

Depot says: (20:38:26)

***good q....

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:38:28)
***ok
Depot says: (20:38:40)

***the rule is black and white but enforcement is grey...

Depot says: (20:39:01)

***if ur registered heavy (4500 or more) then by law u must report to every single weigh scale

Depot says: (20:39:13)

***loaded or not.. u must report.. thats the rule

Depot says: (20:39:45)

***BUT, in reality, if ur driving a 1 ton pick/up an ur empty, they dont want u in the weigh scales in Ontario caus u only clog things up

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:39:56)
***haha
Depot says: (20:40:18)

***this is for ontario only... other provinces are pickier.. Nb for example will charge u if u drive by a scale even if ur empty

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:40:41)
***now by law,that's only if I drive by a scale right
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:41:01)
***Now lets say I have a 2 car trailer then I need to stop or ?
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:41:06)
***(with 2 cars on it)
Depot says: (20:42:08)

***if u have a 2 car trailer then u'll be way over the 2800 Kg small trailer excemption then ur registered weight should be enouh to cover the weight of ur truck and load, the trailr and load which will put u well into CVOR range so then yes, u damn well better report

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:42:24)
***haha
Depot says: (20:42:38)

***99% of the time the scales will just wave u through.. u stop, they weight u and signal t move on

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:42:54)
***do they record u stoped?
Depot says: (20:43:00)

***yes

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:43:00)
***or do u record u did
Depot says: (20:43:04)

***and yes

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:43:10)
***ok
Depot says: (20:43:34)

***ur log book records every stop, when u cross borders, how many km u travel in each province, etc etc

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:43:47)
***ok
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:43:56)
***now DOT lol
Depot says: (20:44:07)

***each province has slightly different rules.. but the log book and hours f operation are the same for canada and US

Depot says: (20:44:27)

***example, in Nova Scotia.. if ur registered over 3000 kg, u have to report to scales

Depot says: (20:44:32)

***USDOT...

Depot says: (20:44:34)

***http://www.dot.gov/
Depot says: (20:44:38)

***happy reading

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:44:44)
***thanks
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:44:56)
***I like reading
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:45:57)
***is motor carreirs consdered ppl moving cars or anyone in general
Depot says: (20:46:48)

***not ure

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:47:00)
***I would think they mean any rig transporting
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:47:14)
***which means I would need to get a DOT number to travel to the states
Depot says: (20:48:18)

***i cant advise re DOT rules.. ahvnt finished my research on em yet

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:48:31)
***I need to find out before may
Depot says: (20:49:13)

***DOT registration is also free.. cant hurt to have it

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:49:22)
***no it can'
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:49:23)
***t
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:49:31)
***wonder if it needs to be displayed on the vehicle
Depot says: (20:50:20)

***oh yah... in Ontario.. if ur registered weight is over 8 thousand and something Kg then ur CVOR # and company name MUST be printed on the outside of ur rig

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:50:31)
***i c
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:51:02)
***if I'm at 4500 I need a cvor number but not display, once I go over 8 I do
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:51:13)
***so if I end up hauling some cars I will
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:51:40)
***so all these guys in dually's driving around with no stickers are technically illegal then
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:52:14)
***with no sticker
Depot says: (20:52:28)

***yep.. i got stopped in KW outta the blue for that.. cop stopped me, told me why he stopped me, then saw the sticker and apoligized

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:52:53)
***I read that post
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:53:05)
***amazing the helpful info u find on sites you really have nothing to do with
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:54:09)
***I'm on Fullsizechevy.com, thedieselplace.com, s10forum.com, lawnsite.com, plowsite.com
Depot says: (20:55:17)

***im dun like dinner... gonna go crash.. fukin feet killing me!

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:55:35)
***thanks for your help
Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:55:40)
***I'm sure I'll have a few more questions
Depot says: (20:55:42)

***hey, mind if I copy/paste this convo in the towing forum for others to read?

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:55:53)
***yeah hey no problem
Depot says: (20:56:13)

***kewl.. post in the frum if u got any more q's

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:56:33)
***aight
Depot says: (20:56:43)

***have a good un

Driving the Diesel is nice. says: (20:57:19)
***thanks u too