Better power to weight ratio than a 1.6 16v ? [Archive]

Fullload

July 23rd, 2003, 05:30 PM

Availabilty? Ease of repair? Cost of repairs? and getting your buddies to come over have a few beer and trying to figure out why it won't run (simplisity of suzuki) the unavailibty of aftermarket add ons. Thats what keeps me away from the rx7 motor.
I am also a firm beliver in Fuel injection. therefore how do you mate the wiring. Right now if need be you can ship the 16 valve harness to Trail tough and they make it as simple as a 5 wire splice and it starts. It costs $400.00 USD but if it saves my truck from bieng down for a month then it may be worth it.
( but i have a secret wiring weapon on my side) Have you met Depot yet????

Depot

July 23rd, 2003, 05:39 PM

well, lets see, i read this post this mornig and thought about it all day... i dont know what the power to weight ratio is but I do that my 1.6 16 fawkin rocks!!! the physical instalation is idiot simple... either buy or make the adapter plates and motor mounts.. nothing fancy there really but the wiring is a challange....
been there.. done that.. blew it up a few times and did it again! :bang: :bang:

i personally wouldnt like to see any zuk driver blow 400 USD on wiring when it really isnt THAT bad... if u have the 1.6 harness, mating it to the 1.3 takes a bit for work, a bit of reading skills and the ability to read schematics, of which I pretty much have all of em now. I would however suggest using the 1.6 instrument cluster instead of the 1.3's and that will save u oodles of wiring nightmares.

my next project is a grad vitara 2.5 V6... will let u know how that works out if I ever start it :)

Depot

p.s. if u need schematics, lemme know, can scan and send

Fullload

July 23rd, 2003, 05:42 PM

See!!!!! My saviour in the multi coloured 16 valve beast.

MuddMachine

July 23rd, 2003, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by SJKrawler
Mazda RX7 maybe. They're light, can put out lots of horsepower, torque???, reliability???

How light are they compared to a zook motor ? I love the lightweight aluminum mill, thats the hard part to beat. I see alot of guys using a 22r but personally I think its a boat anchor, slightly over 100hp but its cast iron and the 1.6 is slightly under 100hp and all aluminum. I know wich one I'll tie to a stiff body :yike

gordZuki

July 23rd, 2003, 10:58 PM

not sure on power numbers but rx7 is about 260#'s and 20 inches long and toyo weighs about 315#'s and 24.5 inches long weights are give or take add on parts

a suburu 1.8L is about 188#'s and 14 inches or a suburu 2.2 turbo is 265#'s and 16.5 inches

BIGZOOK69

July 23rd, 2003, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by Fullload
Availabilty? Ease of repair? Cost of repairs? and getting your buddies to come over have a few beer and trying to figure out why it won't run (simplisity of suzuki) the unavailibty of aftermarket add ons. Thats what keeps me away from the rx7 motor.
I am also a firm beliver in Fuel injection. therefore how do you mate the wiring. Right now if need be you can ship the 16 valve harness to Trail tough and they make it as simple as a 5 wire splice and it starts. It costs $400.00 USD but if it saves my truck from bieng down for a month then it may be worth it.
( but i have a secret wiring weapon on my side) Have you met Depot yet????

more aftermarket stuff for any mazda (rotary's)i.e12a,13b,or jap spec 20b then zook stuff!!!!!!!!and lighter and rev higher and smaller!!!!!!!!!brian do the rotary!!!much more bragging rite's!!their so peekie sounding,i get a hard on everytime i hear one spool up!!!!!!:bo:

Superzuk

July 24th, 2003, 06:51 AM

Depot.... You have to get that 2.5 going... I didn't sell it to you to let it sit there... ;)

:D

TheSarg

July 24th, 2003, 05:16 PM

1.6 yes
mazda no

that simple, the mazda engines are about the same quality as the toy engines and if u go rotary yer getitn in waaaaay over yer head. they're finiky, inconsistant and unworthy of a Zuk, granted this is my opinion, ive rebuilt and serviced a few.

Bang fer the buck?

1600 Twin turbo DOC out of a 1st generation Toyota MR-2, they wind up to 8 and roar, simple parts...dont let the turbo fool ya.
Generally about $600 CDN when heard running, if you have any interest let me know.

MuddMachine

July 24th, 2003, 09:03 PM

Originally posted by TheSarg

Bang fer the buck?

1600 Twin turbo DOC out of a 1st generation Toyota MR-2, they wind up to 8 and roar, simple parts...dont let the turbo fool ya.
Generally about $600 CDN when heard running, if you have any interest let me know.

Got any specs ? Especially difference in length to a 1.6 ? Weight ? Whats the block made of ? Torque/HP ?

Oh and is this engine sitting sideways in the mr2 ? Like a honda with the alternator towards the front, when you turn it to drop it in a zook that would mean the alt is not where the power steering shit is and all that, know what I mean ?

BIGZOOK69

July 24th, 2003, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by TheSarg
1.6 yes
mazda no

that simple, the mazda engines are about the same quality as the toy engines and if u go rotary yer getitn in waaaaay over yer head. they're finiky, inconsistant and unworthy of a Zuk, granted this is my opinion, ive rebuilt and serviced a few.

Bang fer the buck?

1600 Twin turbo DOC out of a 1st generation Toyota MR-2, they wind up to 8 and roar, simple parts...dont let the turbo fool ya.
Generally about $600 CDN when heard running, if you have any interest let me know. SARG,THAT'S A EXCELLANT CHOICE!!!!!!!!!THOSE MOTORS ROCK AS WELL!BUT BY THE WAY THEY ARE SUPERCHARGED WITH A SMALL INTERCOOLER!NOT TURBO!!:boot: THEY PUSH OUT 140HP STOCK WITH A SMALLER PULLEY FROM TRD AND SOME PLAYING,ONE COULD GET THOSE MOTORS TO BOUT 180 RELIABLE HP...BIGZOOK

BIGZOOK69

July 24th, 2003, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by MuddMachine
Got any specs ? Especially difference in length to a 1.6 ? Weight ? Whats the block made of ? Torque/HP ?

Oh and is this engine sitting sideways in the mr2 ? Like a honda with the alternator towards the front, when you turn it to drop it in a zook that would mean the alt is not where the power s
teering shit is and all that, know what I mean ? MUDD,,,,,GO TO A TOYOTA WEB-SITE AND CHECK OUT RWD CORROLLA GTS 85-86,,THEY HAVE THE SAME MOTOR IN THEM AS THE MR2,BUT LIKE YOU SAID THEIR MOUNTED EAST-WEST,INSTED OF NORTH-SOUTH!!!!!ON ANY SITE THOU,THEY HAVE THE SWAP SPEC'S....WOULDN'T BE HARD TO MOUNT!!!!!GOOD LUCK:D

TheSarg

July 24th, 2003, 10:46 PM

Yes, its a tranverse mounted inline 4 mid-engine car. All the typical crap is in the front of the motor where it should be, so thats the big bonus. As fer displacement and weight issues i will look it up at work tomorow and post when i get home. Power? hell yeah, the bloody thing rocks! my ol MR-2 had such grip and torque u thought u had a rocket strapped to your hemeroids!

TheSarg

July 24th, 2003, 10:48 PM

I hear ya BogZook, but they did produce a twin turbo. Got pics to prove it, might have been a U.S. only model as i was in the states when i owned it.

Superzuk

July 25th, 2003, 06:33 AM

Sarg, will they bolt up to a toyota truck tranny? Thanks...

BIGZOOK69

July 25th, 2003, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by TheSarg
I hear ya BogZook, but they did produce a twin turbo. Got pics to prove it, might have been a U.S. only model as i was in the states when i owned it. THEY MADE A TWIN TURBO SUPRA,BUT NEVER MADE A TWIN TURBO 1ST GEN MR-2!!!SUPERCHARGED NO U.S MODEL DIFFERANCE!!!!!2 GEN MR2 CAME SINGLE TURBO,BUT ISN'T A ZOOK SWAP CHOICE BY ANY MEANS!!!REASON I KNOW THESE THINGS IS THAT I'VE BEEN RACING AND BUILDING "RICE-ROCKETS"FOR 8 YEARS NOW,CHECK THE FACTS YOU NEVER HAD A TWIN TURBO 1ST GEN MR-2!!SORRY THEY NEVER MADE THEM!!!!!:fa:

Depot

July 25th, 2003, 07:10 PM

OK BIGZOOK NOT!!!! stop ****in screaming. geez... no matter how anoying I may be.. at least i dont scream at the top of my lungs as if I was standing atop mt. olympus!

my .0000002 cents canadian

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p.s. and clean out ur box!!!!

BIGZOOK69

July 25th, 2003, 07:12 PM

HTTP:://WWW.TDI-PLC.COM/TOYOTA_MR2.HTML

Depot

July 25th, 2003, 07:13 PM

now u see... if u didnt have that damn caps lock on, we could use that link.. but nooo.... ur wanan be stuburn.. fine.. i wont use that link then

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or maybe its the double :: thats frelling it up

TheSarg

July 25th, 2003, 07:19 PM

Well Obviously i dont know shit about what i drive and whether its twin turbo or not, be damned if i ever waste my breathe posting on any tech board. ****it I put in my $.02 and got change.

Lost Soul

July 25th, 2003, 10:35 PM

The first ZOOK I looked at had a 4.3L conversion done. That thing would lay rubber with all four wheels on pavement, with 33x12.5's on it. The only down side is axles, you have to go with toyota axles at least. This guy was snapping factory axles all the time. I would have bought it if it didn't need to have the motor redone. any way that is just my $.02.:beer:

drtysuzuk

July 26th, 2003, 06:17 AM

i think its supposed to be power to weight .....whats best...3/4 of good old smallblock chev? you,ve got the weight part.....power, maybe 160-180 hp? ..motor weighs maybe 700lbs do the math i dont think you,re too far ahead of the game what about a pinto motor i think thats what they run in formula ford series?.....you can get serious HP for little dough out of these things cheap to build @they stay together

MuddMachine

July 26th, 2003, 09:13 AM

Still alot of fukn around when you think about it. A 1.6 is hardly what I would consider a conversion. Its basically down to a bolt up kit with the efi wiring being the main issue. Would it be worth it to drop another mill in to have an extra 20 hp over the 1.6.

PS im not a 4.3 fan (I know Mudlite, I know) and the ole "3/4 of a 350" theory just dont cut it for me. The reliability difference from a 5.7 to a 4.3 is huge.

TheSarg

July 26th, 2003, 06:13 PM

Okay now, i have a 4.3 Vortec in my Blazer here and ive put over 120,000km on it over 2.5 years, so i gotta dispute the reliability factor, all ive done is a water pump. and to this day it still rocks!

So pppbbbttt!!!!! :ban: :ban: :ban:

MuddMachine

July 26th, 2003, 10:41 PM

Originally posted by TheSarg
Okay now, i have a 4.3 Vortec in my Blazer here and ive put over 120,000km on it over 2.5 years, so i gotta dispute the reliability factor, all ive done is a water pump. and to this day it still rocks!

So pppbbbttt!!!!! :ban: :ban: :ban:

Sorry dude, Id never have one. Simply cuz I see as many blown up as do good running engines. Reliable yes, but when they go, the whole engines fawked.

off_your_rocker

August 6th, 2003, 03:54 PM

i would like to have a look at the 2.5L v6. i think that would be cool in my rig depot if you want to get rid of it?? fuel injection, more power with minimal weigth gain, i'm in on that, so what do they go for depot???:beer:

Depot

August 6th, 2003, 04:12 PM

comon down and have a look at her whenever u want.. but im not selling her jsut yet... got just about everythign I need to start building my next rig and thats the motor for her.. srry dude.

Talk to superzuk - hes the ne that sold me that one last year.

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off_your_rocker

August 7th, 2003, 08:01 PM

do you possible have any dimensions on the v6, i would like to find out the length of if and width if you don't mind

Fullload

August 7th, 2003, 09:18 PM

I wouldn't trust depot with a tape measure :yike

Depot

August 7th, 2003, 10:22 PM

**** man.. dont u all know i cant read numbers???? 0 and infintity look the same to me.. tg for a rev limiter!

srry logan, dont have physicl dims.. the butcher job instalation in the zuk thats its in shows it will fit somehow... nee a good body lift and possibly even hood lift.. like i said man.. come check it out for urself whenever u want.. just pm me, I'll give u the address so u can come on ur time

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Superzuk

August 8th, 2003, 06:51 AM

BTW, I didn't install that motor....
I just bought the truck... (wanted you to know that that wasn't my butchering... :D )

ummm. well, let's see. the 2.5 is short... and narrow. just a bit taller I think. Also, the way he installed the motor, it mounts on top of the frame, not with the mounts angled or anything, they are directly on top of the frame... no rubber at all.
I think that the oil pan interferes with the front axle as well in that truck. Easily solved by moving the axle forwards. There were several issues that needed to be dealt with on that installation, Depot has probably had about as much of a look at it as me. I bought the truck / engine for someone else, they were supposed to buy it from me, and FAWKED me around, after guaranteeing me they would buy it... @#$@#

The motor has LOW kms on it... 10,000 km on it. All the aluminum was polished when I first looked at the truck, but after sitting, it has become a little weathered. Nothing a little elbow grease couldn't fix.

I think that comparable motor would be big$$$ with the computer and everything. It's a 1999 Grand Vitara motor, so, good luck finding one for a reasonable price.

Also, just remembered, it is connected to the stock tranny, and stock tcase from the GV, so some fab work would need to be done to make it fit onto a sammy (we all know you could do it Logan/Depot, just take time) Oh yeah, and from what I remember, the pump gear in the tranny was cracked, the guy rushed putting it together and forgot to remove the torque converter or something and fawked a gear up.

Anyways, that's about all I can remember. Depot, you have anything to add?

Depot

August 8th, 2003, 10:59 AM

nope, u pretty much nailed it all bang on.. I'll get some pics of it after the weekend and post if u want.. found someone close with a digicam taht I can borrow on monday

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lil beast

September 6th, 2003, 08:40 AM

well..here she is, waitin for the fly wheel that fullload and depot gathered up for me. many thanks guys :beer:

lil beast

September 6th, 2003, 08:51 AM

fullload showed up with the fly wheel and since the polish princess was workin late fullload kept twistin my arm to get the thing set up with the Trail tough engine adapter, mounts and harness. Once we got the fly wheel bolted up we decided to go all out and do the complete swap.

BTW, the old engine is for sale, can come with the header, GM alt, power steering, and k&n filter.:D

This is a strong runnin motor and blows no smoke........just ask mud and full.
:roll:

lil beast

September 6th, 2003, 08:57 AM

here is the kit from trail tough.

lil beast

September 6th, 2003, 09:02 AM

here it is in the lil beast all settled in 4hours later. A complete swap in 4 hours........not bad eh for a couple of rookies.:ro:

lil beast

September 6th, 2003, 09:12 AM

This is the only problem with the swap. the exhaust bolt rests on the frame rail. The bolt was out enough that the tranny wouldnt line up at all with the tranny mount, it was out about 3". I might pull the engine back up , remove the spring bold and put a solid bolt in and that should clear the frame.

Thanks again Brian for all your help and ill be there for your swap.:beer:

Fullload

September 6th, 2003, 09:27 AM

No problem Lil beast. i do what i can. your a hell of a wheeler. Now you'll be able to out pull my dodge up hill (when the dodge is towing my zuk) but you'll be very happy no doubt. Just call when we do the other 4 hour stretch to fire it up!!!!!!!

lil beast

September 6th, 2003, 09:31 AM

Is that your way of tryin to get me stuck.LOL

..........keep tryin:ale:

Depot

September 6th, 2003, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by lil beast
This is the only problem with the swap. the exhaust bolt rests on the frame rail.

yep, u can not use spring bolts to hook up ur exhaust no more... use a straight bolt and nut and double nut it - thats a known issue with the 1.6 16 conversion

nice job

Depot

lil beast

September 15th, 2003, 08:40 AM

Well, I got her runnin. Took a while cuz i had to figure out where to align the dist. cuz the guy i bought the motor from gave me the dist seperately. Man that thing revs up like a hot rod espesially with no down pipe...lol

It starts up fine but after runnin for a minuite it starts to chug like its miss firing. Dono what it is. I have to say that the harness from TT was well worth the $, the only reason why i went that route was for the special they had goin. $329. usd ($600.cad when all was said and done incl shipping/duties) for the harness and engine adaptor kit.

GREENS..........Im comin for ya.:boot:

:D

zc911

September 17th, 2003, 08:11 PM

any of you guys thought about an S2000 motor :ro:
240hp 2L 4
AND you get to rev THE PISS OUT OF IT:D

Fullload

September 17th, 2003, 09:22 PM

I was hoping for an oppurtunity to use this bit of info when i found out myself. Ahem. Honda motors spin backwards. (counterclock wise) so you would have 5 reverse gears and one forward.
Besides how much do you think a honds S2000 motor would cost even if you could get the motor harness and ecm.
Whats wrong with revving the piss outta your zuk motor. I know i hit 6500rpm many times. (thats what my rev limiter is)

Nice try tho.:beer:

gordZuki

September 17th, 2003, 11:37 PM

not all hondas spin in reverse ... has to do with whatside the front wheel tranny sits on ...

zc911

September 18th, 2003, 07:44 AM

well you would be correct if you are talking about B series motor and D series motors BUT
The f20c i THINK spinds the correct way
I know for sure the new K series motors (in all 2001 up cars) spin the regular way now

Fullload

September 18th, 2003, 09:11 PM

More info that i never knew. Thanks for the update. I will do more homework before i quote something like taht again. But i will be keeping my eyes open for a honda that spind the right way.
But like i said before. I know i drive a zuk casue i cannot afford a honda S2000 motor let alone the whole damn car!!!!

gordZuki

September 18th, 2003, 09:46 PM

i kno wnew engines can go for aslittle as 200 bucks in toronto :) don't ask how or why just buy

Superzuk

September 19th, 2003, 06:36 AM

where?

zc911

September 19th, 2003, 11:12 AM

hahah no prob dude, i am almost %100 sure the S2000 spins the way the susuki motor does.
so whos first to try it :D

Fullload

September 19th, 2003, 03:21 PM

Your up!!!! and don't forget to pay your Donation fee so you can post pics and do a write up!!!!!!!!!!!

zc911

September 19th, 2003, 05:11 PM

hahah i'll gladly help the peron doing the swap, as for me doing it, ahhh that would be a negative :D
Unless gordsuki acutally has a full s2000 powertrain for $200
Wich i can;t fidnout casue somone has to many PMs in their folders :D

Depot

September 19th, 2003, 05:32 PM

ok, so 4 pages later.. what have we figured? As far as i can tell, the 1.6 16 valve wins! It's been done and proven - not guessing or experimenting. Sure i'd love to seee an S2000 for 200 bones, hell, I'll even give gordzuki 200 bones if he can gimme a complete S2000 motor and wiring harness and puter for 200 bucks! but back down to earth here...the power, the weight and the ease of instalation - is there trully a competitor to the 1.6 16 valve multiport??

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Jays4x4

September 19th, 2003, 08:01 PM

Can someone PM me with where I can buy a complete 16V 1.6L for 200$? :D

They seem to be much more then that at car-parts.com!

Jay

Depot

September 19th, 2003, 08:20 PM

HOLY-**** on those prices!!!!!!!!!!!!! and that was US dollars too???? WOW!!!!

I see now when they say buy american its not cause its good, its cause jap is SOOOO flipping expensive down there!!!!

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lil beast

September 22nd, 2003, 08:39 AM

Well after fullload and i went for a test drive we realized we needed a new clutch. and yes depot was right....buy a centerforce.

i thought i could save a bit of dough by putting a used clutch in that was in very good shape and you could still see the stampings on the disc. So i put the trany and the t case in neutral then i went to work on pulling the clutch under the truck and yes you can do a clutch job with a 16 16v still mounted to the chasis (some people might not think so). so i had a good look at the disc that was in there from the test drive and i couldnt understand why the bugger wouldnt work cuz it looked so new. I took a bit emery cloth and sanded it down a little just to get a new surface on it and i did the same to the fly wheel and press plate as well. I slapped the whole thing back together and started to go through the gears.....nothing.:( Well i was fakin pissed cuz i spent all this time cleaning up this disc just to put it back and make things worse. at least i drove the thing on the test drive. So i started diggin around and found another disc and i thought if i did all that work would i get the same results? cant happen twice right? so i went at it....got it all together, put it in gear and.....nothing.:yike This is where the dumb ass part comes in...my brother walks over and says..."is that little shifter in the right spot"?:bang: :bang: :bang: :bang:

i fogot to put the t case in gear.:roll:

At least it's not as bad as tryin to start a white sami with a 22re in it, cranking the engine over and over and over thinking "i know i had this thing goin yesterday".....not without pluging in the computer........ right DEPOT :beer: TO DUMB ASSES :beer:

Depot

September 22nd, 2003, 09:50 AM

TO DUMB ASSES!!! lol

:beer: :beer: :beer:

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Fullload

September 22nd, 2003, 04:26 PM

Tsk Tsk Tsk. So you forgot to tell us if it still slipped when you took it out for a test drive after you found that it works better in gear.
To tell you all a little dumbass story of my own. We all were doing a run locally and i flat towed my Zuk. It was like my third run ever in my Zuk. So i get it all unhooked and the driveshaft in and good to go right? let out the clutch in first gear and it starts revving up but going no where. I tried this a few times trying to figure out what was going on (meanwhile holding the group up) and over comes one of my buddies. He takes one look at the shifter and tells me to put it in 2WD. Lesson learned and a dumbass mistake. Oh welllllll FAWKING NEWBIES!!!!!!!!!

At least i never pulled my tranny twice to figure it out though:boot: :beer:

lil beast

September 23rd, 2003, 05:14 PM

newbies huh? fak dude ive been wheelin my sami b4 you even got your licence.:in: lol

jk

ya. it all worked out with the clutch. as i was pulling into my driveway i gave it a little gas and with the stockers on i layed a 10' rolling patch. since then my driveway has a new layer of rubber..
:uk:

Fullload

September 23rd, 2003, 06:59 PM

Thats the way to do it. I love laying rubber with a 4cyl!!!!!!. But i meant i was the Newbie in the last post. But thanks for showing me just how old you really are DAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL J/k as well.:boot:

MuddMachine

September 23rd, 2003, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by Depot
ok, so 4 pages later.. what have we figured? As far as i can tell, the 1.6 16 valve wins! It's been done and proven - not guessing or experimenting. ...the power, the weight and the ease of instalation - is there trully a competitor to the 1.6 16 valve multiport??

D

I think youre right on the money, dude. 1.6 it is :beer:

Canadian_zuk

October 28th, 2004, 11:58 AM

THEY MADE A TWIN TURBO SUPRA,BUT NEVER MADE A TWIN TURBO 1ST GEN MR-2!!!SUPERCHARGED NO U.S MODEL DIFFERANCE!!!!!2 GEN MR2 CAME SINGLE TURBO,BUT ISN'T A ZOOK SWAP CHOICE BY ANY MEANS!!!REASON I KNOW THESE THINGS IS THAT I'VE BEEN RACING AND BUILDING "RICE-ROCKETS"FOR 8 YEARS NOW,CHECK THE FACTS YOU NEVER HAD A TWIN TURBO 1ST GEN MR-2!!SORRY THEY NEVER MADE THEM!!!!!:fa:

Well I may be a year late but your both wrong. It was a twin charged MR2. Had both a turbo and a supercharger. Supercharger provided boost off the line to get ya goin and the turbo developed boost a little higher up rev line. Gave the best of both worlds. It was limited production in US. How do I know?? I had one.

zc911

October 28th, 2004, 12:31 PM

that was an aftermarket HKS kit you had, very rare, pretty old. Not factory

by the way the s2k motor and tranny will fit with minor mods to the s2k tranny :D

Canadian_zuk

October 28th, 2004, 12:57 PM

I think your right. It was a while ago. I thought it was a TRD option.

Mudslug

October 28th, 2004, 12:59 PM

Hey I know someone who can do that mod....

ZC911 tell me your bringing the tranny along to the house so I can do the mod...come on man i want to see a S2000 powered Zook.

We can work out the bill later....dude it should be done...10,000rpm in the mud...come on!!!!

zc911

October 28th, 2004, 01:01 PM

might have been TRD but i am almost %100 sure it was an HKS kit

Mudslug i dunno man that eninge/tranny isn't mine and to get another costs too much money :(
Maybe we can start a donation fund, all those who wnat to see an S2K powered zook send $20 to.... LOL

Canadian_zuk

October 28th, 2004, 01:23 PM

What about a gsxr 1100 with juice? get it balanced and blue printed you could push to 14,000 rpm at over 200hp.

zc911

October 28th, 2004, 01:43 PM

that woul dbe awsome as well
eveything fun costs $$$

Mudslug

October 28th, 2004, 03:13 PM

200hp but no torque.....ya need the grunt....

ZC just bring the tranny.....i'll cut it a its done.

If you are that worried what about a linkage system??

SJKrawler

October 28th, 2004, 06:12 PM

How about the 4-stroke watercraft engines?
Honda 1235cc-dohc,efi,turbo, inline 4cyl- 165hp
kawasaki 1199cc "....."no turbo, inline 4 - 125hp
sea doo 1494cc sohc,efi, supercharged, 3 cyl- 150 and 185hp
Yamaha 988cc dohc, efi, inline 4- 140hp
Be interesting to know the weight of these engines.

Canadian_zuk

October 29th, 2004, 09:08 AM

I know the power/weight ratios of these engines are massive, but I believe the cylinder walls are pretty thin. It's not like they have to worry about rad capacity or coolant flow. Theres lots of fresh cool water in the lakes and oceans they ride in. I think a hot day would be pretty devestating to a watercraft engine on a rad.