Change in Location Poll

[Mud Lite]

I am currently looking at options for relocating SuziCan and possibly changing each year and rotating east and west from Montreal to South Western Ontario. For next year the plan is to have it in Chertsey Quebec. ( 30 minutes north of Montreal) They have a vast trail system set up there and no need for capture the flag and large groups running trails. It easily handles 50-100 trucks.

How many people would still go if the venu was changed?

[leadfoot]

Chertsey's great. Trails everywhere and all within a five to ten minute drive. :D

[Fullload]

NO thanks, to far to drive for todays, and possibly next years Gas prices. Sorry i've been to all 4 events so far but, no thanks, not in Quebec

[Depot]

Nope here too... PQ is absolutely out of the question 4 me for a few reasons, most of which arent worth of slander.

D

[GearHead]

Sorry, but too far.
5 hours is enough of a drive right now.
been to all four but a drive to montreal and then north is out of the question.

something to the west i would be interesting but if i drive further east i might save my gas money and make a trip to the USA and hit zookmelt

later
steve

[MuddMachine]

Not a chance. First off I cant stand quebec, secondly it's already 5+ hours.

[Lucy]

I'd hate to miss Suzican but I think the 6-8 hour bone rattleing drive in Lucy to calabogie is about my limit.

[Superzuk]

I'd love to, but seeing as gas is going up, and as the drive is almost always a long afair, I can't see being able to make it to the north side of Montreal. Nothing against Quebec though, as I know North of Montebello has some great trails...

[weldor guy]

Nope too far to travel for me too...

[gobig]

that might be a bit too far for me too, but if we all stay at Danny's place, we could save on motel/camping!!!!!
any chicks on the trails up there??????

[longy442]

Yup its already 8 hours to Calabogie for me, hoping you move a little farther west not east. thx anyway.

[xfaktor]

I don't think it's that far.. ;)

Would be cool to drive 1hours instead of 5 to go to suzican ;)

[Flanders]

Hey What's up With this Down EAST thing, We like to trail ride down here to you know. Ak Depot and Fulload. :shame:

[MLC]

aint going to happen Flanders... ops ....Tronics ....lol

[BIGZOOK69]

can't stand quebec...they hate non french speakers!!won't be any parly-voo-fansay..fo me!!!

[szabotage]

doesn't seem like there's much interest in chertsey :( (too bad cuz I only heard good about it) I'm still open for a different location other than calabogie so how bout something west of or north?

haven't explored much out near toronto and would definitely be up for some. how bout sudbury? mudd's backyard looks kickass!

throw some ideas out people!

[DannyL]

For next year the plan is to have it in Chertsey Quebec. ( 30 minutes north of Montreal)


Well after reading some of the post I guess we'll just have to fill up the rest of the roster with FRENCMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guys lighten up for god sakes. It's TRAILS not politics!!!! :roll:

Chertsey is a great place, too bad you're letting stigma keep you away......... :(

[Fullload]

Quebec is alot like heep owners. you meet some good and some bad. Driving a car it takes 6 hours to montreal and then add 45 mins north of that while towing a trailer kinda sucks in my books. Not to mention it would be the beginning and end of a long weekend therefore i look forward to another two to three hours in traffic. X2

Not appealing to me.

[DannyL]

Quebec is alot like heep owners. you meet some good and some bad.


I guess the same can be said for people from every province......... :roll:

I'm not trying to start a fight so please don't take it that way. :shame:

As for the traveling I can relate to that, time being an issue.

Anyway I think it's pretty obvious that it's not a good move..

But I'll be sure to enjoy the AWESOME trails when I head up this Saturday!!!!!!!


;)

[Lucy]

Quebec is alot like heep owners. you meet some good and some bad. Driving a car it takes 6 hours to montreal and then add 45 mins north of that while towing a trailer kinda sucks in my books. Not to mention it would be the beginning and end of a long weekend therefore i look forward to another two to three hours in traffic. X2

Not appealing to me.

Exactly, even less appealing is the drive on a set of swampers in a zuk the size of Lucy :bugeye:

[SuziCrazy]

Either way I'll be there (at SuziCan that is) But Chertsey offers mint trails!

is Greens an option on the long weekend?

[Mud Lite]

That is always an option. who know the area very well?
How many trails are there in the area?
I wonder if it would be possible to Talk to LOJAC to use private land trails that J33P Jam runs?
I'm always up for new shiat

[DannyL]

But Chertsey offers mint trails!


You got that right Mike!!!! ;)

[Zukinator]

I am happy wheeling, and always love new terrain.. so to me Chertsey is great.. A few extra hous to get ther, but not like coming from TO.. iam also open to otehr new locations.. :thefinger

Tim

[Fullload]

I guess the same can be said for people from every province......... :roll:

Your right!


I'm not trying to start a fight so please don't take it that way. :shame:



Never even thought of taking it that way. :beer:

[Mud Lite]

Sell me on Greens/Minden

what are our options for camping? Trails, amenities, on road travel.......etc.

[MuddMachine]

Greens would be a blast, but dont forget- Greens on July long weekend will be packed, all the trails.

Minden is kinda blahhhhh too much mudd, not enough interesting scary stuff.

[TheSarg]

SUDBURY!!!!! DUH!!!


Takes me only bout an hour or so less to goto sudbury then calabogie, as far as im concerned there's no comparison, the drive is waaaayyyy better, and the trails, in my opinion far supercede anything at calabogie.


Took me 13 hours to drive a stock SJ home this year, i wont be back, unless it ends up closer to me. Thats just a personal choice, no matter where it is ML will put on a great event.

[leadfoot]

Either way I'll be there (at SuziCan that is)

That's if you ever keep a truck long enough to wheel it!!! :thefinger :thefinger

I agree a new location would good idea. Try something new to keep this event interesting.

[BIGZOOK69]

sudbury,,,sounds real good!minden is good as well,greens is great but very short.could do haliburton highlands/greens/minden,they all with in 30 mins from each other!!!haliburton being dead center...

[Fullload]

I think the last thing that greens needs is alot of rigs going there for a long weekend event. I'm sure that we could get permission based on mudlites previous encounters with the MNR but it's nasty for stock rigs and even though it's short it could get real long fast if there is any carnage.


I vote up by Mudds place with the gravel pit for camping etc... Mudd has a trail picked out that we all could run with the super mod guys bieng a little bored but hey it'll be fun anyway when we find places to play while waiting for others to catch up. Maybe one group run the way we did last sept and the super mods run it backwards.

The second day would consist of a capture the flag on the hydro line that we did last sept lots of mild to wild there and then the third day could take a bunch of spectators and the serious hardcore do or die kinda folk and crawl/smash and bang thier way up depots crack.

For this obstacle i would suggest running it so that you have to go down ( each side) of the crack and then drive up. this way if you wanna go and check things out you can hide your vehicles at the top while it only takes a second to drive down and turn around. I say this to keep the attention of the onlookers from the highway.

another option would be to drive the trail we came out where we had the two big walls of rock on either side. ( mudd should know what i'm talking about)

The only problem would be setting things up with the MNR for permits and such. It may take some extra work on mudlites part but maps and pics may help.


I belive that this destination is very central for most of the people that attend. It's about 4-5 hours towing a trailer with traffic included from T.O
Not sure what it is from Ottowa but may be less cause it's straight across 17 i think.


If you need extra help ML i would be glad to do what i can scoping wise as i will be there may 24 next year. I could also dig up some TOPO maps and mail em to you and show a route etc... whatever i can do i will do.


Thats my 4 cents casue the price of fuel is high.

[MuddMachine]

There's Ardbag as an option too.

And Sudbury is about 5 hrs from Ottowa as well.

[Grumpy]

For us, if it's close I can bring both trucks, if it's far like Sudbury I can only bring one, but it really doesn't matter to me, and if the wife complains enough, I'll just have to get busy building a trailer for two and get the new tow rig as well!! (or I could always borrow my buddy's tilt and load for the trip) My final word is that we SHOULD get away from Calabogie, change of scenery would be great!

grumpy

[Fullload]

There's Ardbag as an option too.





I guess you have forgotton about the camping ban on long weekends there. It is a good idea but what type of special privilages would, or could we get to do this after the MNR has closed it? sounds like shoveling shit into the wind in my opinion.

[BIGZOOK69]

one more thing!i hate capture the flag,i'm sure i'm not the only one either..this should be a option,with a trail ride instead...for those people who are more laid back..and don't want to kill their rigs for a trinkit/prize etc..

[Fullload]

one more thing!i hate capture the flag,i'm sure i'm not the only one either..this should be a option,with a trail ride instead...for those people who are more laid back..and don't want to kill their rigs for a trinkit/prize etc..


Just do the obstacles that you want. capture the flag as i have always known it is very laid back with no peer pressure to do anything that you don't want to.

[frwinks]

Just do the obstacles that you want. capture the flag as i have always known it is very laid back with no peer pressure to do anything that you don't want to.

:roll: you've never been on Depot's team have ya' :thefinger lmfao

way to break in a Suzican newbie :D I had a blast, and yer right, it was just another great trail run (witha twist) ;)

[Depot]

...capture the flag...should be a option,with a trail ride instead...for those people who are more laid back..and don't want to kill their rigs for a trinkit/prize etc..

Capture the flag WAS an option.... u had the option of "competing" or just goin out with ur team and havin fun. it sounds like u missunderstood that part and its too bad. I presonally know quite a few ppl that did the run without trying to kill their rigs for a trinket but instead decided to do the obstacles they wanted and watched the rest. Cant get more laid back than that can u?

frwinks : Ur lucky I like u bud..... Imagine what i'd make u do if i didnt :beatup: :beatup: :rofl: :rofl:

:ban:

D

[Mud Lite]

Taking that logic Depot did most of the obsticles but only punched 7 flags. I guess he was out to kill his rig while having fun.

BIGZOOK: I think you missed the whole point of SuziCan. Its about getting together with other Zuk owners and chilling for the weekend. As for the Trinkets??? You want bigger prizes? You gotta play harder. :thefinger I think that the 4-5 grand worth of rafle prizes each year is nothing turn your nose up at. :roll:

[BIGZOOK69]

Taking that logic Depot did most of the obsticles but only punched 7 flags. I guess he was out to kill his rig while having fun.

BIGZOOK: I think you missed the whole point of SuziCan. Its about getting together with other Zuk owners and chilling for the weekenTrinkets??? You want bigger prizes? You gotta play harder. :thefinger I think d. As for the that the 4-5 grand worth of rafle prizes each year is nothing turn your nose up at. :roll:

MUDLITE:i never missed anything,just a goodtime the last day due to some over competive flag partners!first day was great!as for "prizes/trinkets" i never wanted any or cared!and i wasn't turning my nose up to anyone or thing :thefinger relax!!you taking too personal :roll:

[GearHead]

Ardbeg would be a blast.
Yes camping is an issue since the 2km camping ban took affect, if you don't need to trailer in there there is lots of camping outside the ban area.
Also there are a number of campgrounds and cottage to rent.

Also talking to the owner of the store in ardbeg she mentioned primative camping on her property. Also trucks and trailers can be parked at the store fora very small fee. Sometimes free if you keep coming back to buy your ice and stuff there.

I'm up there quite a bit in the summer and could scout out some sutable camping areas.

later
steve

[GearHead]

got this from the suztrails site

[Mud Lite]

I would need to know the number of trails in the area, if 50 trucks can camp close to eacg other, if there is enough to do for 3 days of wheeling for 50 trucks, and if there is a range of trails from easy to extreme.

I am open to options , but need imput from the different areas. Who is in the Bancroft area that can let me know what is there?

John

[MuddMachine]

Im scopin my area out for the possibilities of 2007.

[GearHead]

there is lost of trails in ardbeg, from stock to wild.
There is lost of rock close to the main camp to play on and everthing is pretty clost together. Also it is possible to run from the south end off hwy 124 north to ardbeg. This would take all day with large group stopping to play.

Any thoughts of making it a non-long weekend?? then we could use the main camp area, people would just have to take some time off.

I'll post some maps and pics of the area.

later
steve

[GearHead]

just some photos

[MudHog_jr]

I have never attended Suzican due to the fact I don't own the required vehicle type, however I belive that ardbeg would be a great place to hold your event. I have been to ardbeg when there were more then 100 trucks present and there was no lack of space or trails to accomadate everyone. (that was some time ago, 1989-90 type time frame. there haven't been that many trucks there for a long time)

There is no shortage of trails there, you would be hard pressed to do them all in one weekend. Just going from blacklake to the far north end of the trail is an acomplishment, and there is still all the trail from blacklake south to hwy124.

In my opinion Ardbeg would be an exelent location for your event. Trails very from stockable to nearly unpassable by a high $$$ buggy so everyone would be able to have a great time.

[vanbdan]

Ardbegs cool!

[vanbdan]

van:hubba:

[MudHog_jr]

lol, thats kinda funny, I was there when those pics of Depot going through the monster hole were taken. I even have a short video clip of it. I have had a lot of good times up there I tell ya! :D

[vanbdan]

no shit,I was the guy in the green suit,mostly scared,and covered with mud
ahh good times:fri:

van:hubba:

[SamiFlyer]

Sudbury would be cool. I can think of a few trails in the Valley that would be sweet.


Sean :cool:

[vanbdan]

Sudbury would be cool. I can think of a few trails in the Valley that would be sweet.


Sean :cool:

Or between Mudd's,and Falconbridge,and over to Skead through the back way,And around to the Valley from there!

van:hubba:

[BIGZOOK69]

i still would love to see sudbury's trails with all the members...something fresh and new to most..

[Big-block-Sami]

MUDLITE:i never missed anything,just a goodtime the last day due to some over competive flag partners!first day was great!as for "prizes/trinkets" i never wanted any or cared!and i wasn't turning my nose up to anyone or thing :thefinger relax!!you taking too personal :roll:



Hi Bigzook69,
glad to see your last post that you have decided not to let other people's competiveness ruin your fun next time.Keep your chin up and even though people may egg you on because they can see that you have a very capable rig,know your limits and don't give in to peer group pressure.
That reminds me of a funny thing that happened to me a few years ago, lets just say it was a life lesson for me.
I was at "the pits" north of Oshawa for the first time ( has just moved there and trying to make a good impression) when about 200 people talked me into taking my Sammy into hole #3.One of the people there was a young guy called Hogan, or Tokin' or Logan or something like that ,LOL (just jokin' bud), anyhow, I gave into peer group pressure that ended up costing me over $200 in fluid changes and almost an engine rebuild. The next time I will think twiceand turn around and go home,,,,,,,,,,,,,ah, no, your right, I won't, I'll put the top on and and gun it !!!!!!
Go, have fun doing what you enjoy, not what everybody tells you to do.
BBS

[BIGZOOK69]

yeah i could have told you not to listen to logan and go in that hole!!!dummmsonabitch!!:brows:

[longy442]

I'm guessing this change in location poll may be gathering steam again. :(

[Zuklin]

Im in no matter where its held... but i sure would have liked to have a few drinks with most of you and it looks like alot of the vets arent/cant make it to that particular location. New trails are cool but i always found that old friends make an event what it really is. Plus i was hoping to see some of the DEPOT STYLE that i keep reading about. My .02 newbie cents after exchange = .01 :D

[Depot]

Unless the boys are comin up from out east or suzican is real close to me.. i mite have to bow out this year. So u mite have to wait a bit more to see Depot Style in action :brows:

fyi - I've given up on renovating my house and decided to tear it down and build a new one from scratch... hopefully starting mid April. so obviously time and $$ are gonna influence my attendance.

l8r

D

[MuddMachine]

Now maybe we should hold it in Quebec :thefinger

[admin]

I vote up by Mudds place with the gravel pit for camping etc

I'd love to see some kind of event happening up here in Sudbury. There are lots of great trails and everyone would have fun and keep more than busy.

I can do some checking around about available crown land for camping, but it's in seriously short supply up here. The trails never end, but most of the land is owned by the mining bigshots.

I'd love to invite you all to my yard to camp, but I think the neighbors might lynch us. I'll check around and see what I can come up with if ML decides he wants to ever try and do a SuziCan up this way.

and btw... Sudbury is a BILINGUAL town! :D

[vanbdan]

Mudusa,i can probably help you guys find some spots to camp in the area,with a little help from my family and friends.If and when you do want to try and set up a weekend run,I will help out in any way I can.
cheers sorry for the off topic.

van:hubba:

[Mud Lite]

I'd love to see some kind of event happening up here in Sudbury. There are lots of great trails and everyone would have fun and keep more than busy.

I can do some checking around about available crown land for camping, but it's in seriously short supply up here. The trails never end, but most of the land is owned by the mining bigshots.

I'd love to invite you all to my yard to camp, but I think the neighbors might lynch us. I'll check around and see what I can come up with if ML decides he wants to ever try and do a SuziCan up this way.

and btw... Sudbury is a BILINGUAL town! :D

I think it would be a great idea. I think 2007 should be in Sudbury! Let me get up there this year and show me what you got. I have loved the pics and wish I had made it up this past year.

[SamiFlyer]

I think it would be a great idea. I think 2007 should be in Sudbury! Let me get up there this year and show me what you got. I have loved the pics and wish I had made it up this past year.

I will make it a point this year to be more trigger happy with the camera to show off the places we have for wheeling here in the Sudbury district and perhaps the Valley in particular. ML I would also be more than happy to actually take you or anybody else to see the many places we have to offer for wheeling and camping. I'm fairly certain I will get a full month off again this summer so hopefully we can get together and do some sight-seeing.


Sean :cool:

[Mud Lite]

Now maybe we should hold it in Quebec :thefinger

Well we could always hold it in Quebec since I have first right on the location before Danny. How about July Long weekend?:brows:

[Canadian_zuk]

Well we could always hold it in Quebec since I have first right on the location before Danny. How about July Long weekend?:brows:


WTF!!?!?!? Didn't you guys know I was holding a Toyota Jamboree that weekend in Chertsey??

[Evolvocane]

nope. too far and its quebec.

[Canadianwing]

Why don't ya have it a little further west like BC, LOL

[RegalZuk]

Seems my fun is ending before it even got started. Count me out

[SuziCrazy]

WTF!!?!?!? Didn't you guys know I was holding a Toyota Jamboree that weekend in Chertsey??

I don't think anyone knew....

[Mud Lite]

lets beat a dead horse some more...LOL. We are looking for new trails in Calabogie. I will keep everyone up to speed as we learn more.

[frwinks]

:D some of us can spend the whole weekend playin' in just this one spot:brows: :rofl:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/frwinks/Suzican%202006/IMG_5744.jpg
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we can make that horse even deader:D

[SamiFlyer]

http://www.hardcoresledder.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/beatingdeadhorse.gif


Sean :thefinger

[twistedzuki]

lets beat a dead horse some more...LOL. We are looking for new trails in Calabogie. I will keep everyone up to speed as we learn more.

I personally cant wait to make tracks there again!!:jam: :fri:

[MudManMike]

I've heard great things about Calabogie.I plan to get there next season to check it out.My usual wheelin home away from home is Ardbeg,which for those of you who don't know, is about 35 or 40 minutes north east of Parry Sound.I've got a trailer close to there so I get there fairly often.As for the infamous Suzican, it could be held in the furthest regions of the North West Territories and it wouldn't deter me one bit from attending. ZUK IT, and they shall come !!!

[neb]

Ardbeg is closed on long week-ends, some know why and some were there.
If someone where to go the mto or mrn or who does it maybe get it reversed.
I have gone there on non-long weekends and taking days off work just to be there.
I don't like to tavel hours to go wheeling.

[Mud Lite]

Sorry, it will still b held in Calabogie. Trust me, the party is worth the Drive!

[vanbdan]

Ardbeg is closed on long week-ends, some know why and some were there.
If someone where to go the mto or mrn or who does it maybe get it reversed.
I have gone there on non-long weekends and taking days off work just to be there.
I don't like to tavel hours to go wheeling.

Neb,where is Musoka? I don't understand you will take time of work to wheel,but drive to Calabogie? Do it,you won't regret it.

[GearHead]

Ardbeg is closed on long week-ends, some know why and some were there.
If someone where to go the mto or mrn or who does it maybe get it reversed.
I have gone there on non-long weekends and taking days off work just to be there.
I don't like to tavel hours to go wheeling.

It'sonly closed to overnight camping on long weekends, withing a 2km radius of the main camp.

Still a few hudred acres to camp on.