Kicker3 from OTT

[MuddMachine]

Whatcha think ?

http://www.ottindustries.com/kicker3.htm

[gordZuki]

sorry mars looks like the tranny/tcase for the tracker just came off the market

[Depot]

nice but ouch on the $$

[MuddMachine]

ouch what ? Look at advance adapter chit and say ouch ! Anything special is ouch so get used to it unless you want a basically stock rig (like your current rig). How much are your boggers ? ouch, how much was your trailer ouch, how much was the 1 ton, ouch, ouch, ouch, the trailer's worth more than your zook, wtf you ouchin ?

[Depot]

Im ouchin cause of the $$ and what u get for it... 750 US smackers and it does what, allows u to slam a zuk t-case to a kick tranny... 2 problems I see off the hop.. 1 - its not divorced any more which i like cause of its flexibility in applications, now ur stuck with where it hooks up.. 2 - its a zuk t-case - just fine for stock gears but whos gonna go through all that for stock gears? so go ahead and slam a 4:1 of 5 or even 6:1 in it and watch ur money go down the tubes when ur case splits like so many of em do when u torque em up!

so yah, trailer - worth every penny - I dnt have to spend 5 hours waiting for CAA to bail me out when i smash my zuk up again, boggers - i love boggers and they work amazing for my stuf - wrth the coin - 1 ton - and so on and so on...

but to throw 750 US $ to mate a tall geared tranny to a weak shelled t-case and lose its divorced status - I say ouch and would rather spend my money on other things.

my 2 cents worth

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[Superzuk]

Two words: Marlin Crawler

It's all about the Marlin Crawler... you can buy the adapter to mate that to a zuk case, and you'll probably never kill it... plus they m,ade divorced toy cases too..
:D

[Mudslug]

If you have had a Toyo T case apart and looked very closly at the PIC's of the Toyo divorce kit you will see its not that hard to make your own divorce kit.....

You need 2 trannies and 2 T cases.....think about it Super, its not too hard to do!!

[MuddMachine]

My point is this: When it comes to zooks people are so fukn stingy. How many times do I end up on the trail with someone who has a piece of shit truck and it holds up the group all fukn day. People think cuz you pick up a zook for $300 that we CANT spend another dime on it. It's fukn stupid. You wanna play, you gotta pay. We have it good. We drive zooks and this is a bonus cuz to get 4:1 it costs us way under a grand. If it was a big rig it would cost $3500 for an AtlasII. But we still cry like it's the last dollar our life will allow us to spend. All the shit one spends money on for thier rig and we still have a cum-along holdin our t-case in place. It just doesnt make sense. For the record Ive never heard anyone bitch about the quality of an OTT product. You get what you pay for. And I posted the pic but it's intent was not to discuss the price, who gives a shit what it costs. Like Mudslug said, it's only money. It comes and it goes. Further more people stack cases all the time. The ill effect would be from having a geared kick case in front of the sami case. Having a stock kick case going into a 4:1 sami case shouldnt be a problem. Bieng a married unit now, I doubt it would have the problems you stated. Properly set up, a 4:1 or 6:1 works fine. I rarely here people bitching about the gears destroying the case because of all the torque multiplication. Build it right and it'll work fine. Fullload seems to be doin fine with his Mighty Kong. Being married would eliminate some ill effects that you get with a divorced case. Options for gearing a kick are more limited than a sami so I'd have to assume this is why they came out with a unit as so. Logan pipe in here, you have a divorced case behind your kick drivetrain. This setup would eliminate some drivetrain length off that setup. And I would think it would be more reliable as well. If it's all married what da fuk you gonna tear off ???

[Depot]

If u want opinions about a product, well, im sorry, but the price of a product is part of the product and its fair game for critisism. I dont know nutin about OTT nor did i comment about their quailty. My point was about the products functioanlity compared to its price so lemme try this again...


this product is for sammy owners... to put a kick tranny and mate it down the line to a zuk t-case - leeme ask u why u wanna do this???

a kick tranny is geared tall - designed for 513 gears! where as a zuk tranny is geared for 373's. seems like putting in a kick tranny is like shooting ureslf in the foot and then wanting a refund for the bullet! so now that im bleeding profusely from my foot, lets drop a good chunk of change and slam a Zuk part into it again to try to bring it back down to the gearing levels of what zuks like to work in - jsut so we can save a few bucks to put in 4:1 gears in a zuk case instead of a kick one?

for sammy owners, i think this product is stupid - take a step backwards in gearing to take another forward in cases? and to throw that kinda coin at it for that reason is even stupider. Everyone knows i got no quams spending cash on my rig and its not about the cash, but there is a differnce is spending mney and wasting it on products that are counter intuative.

And as far as that comealong uner my truck goes - it works better than the factory mount and im leaving it till such a time where i take my body off again and redesign the mounting system.

As far as the mightykong goes - there is a reason so many people are putting em in... zuk t-cases are WEAK!!! dumping more power and more gears into em has created the need for mighty kongs - so now if u go this route, tell me ur not gonna need to reinforce the case with ur own home made mighty kong since u know the original one wont fit anymore.

or maybe Im just way out to lunch on this whole product but either which way, lets not make this personal by attacking my truck or the way i spend my $$!

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[Superzuk]

That's why I bought my Marlin Crawler.... MC07.... It may have been out of service for a long time now, but when I get it together, muhahahahahaha...

Geezzz. I am so excited...

Actually even cleaned the garage to start yesterday.... Now I can walk in the garage... SWEET!!!!!!!!!

[Mudslug]

All kinds of big Barry White love going on around here eh?

Go crawler...its half the cost and double the versatility.

I got one...I know!! :boot:

[Mudslug]

Ah ha!! I knew I had pics.

[Mudslug]

And make this

[MuddMachine]

Originally posted by Depot
If u want opinions about a product, well, im sorry, but the price of a product is part of the product and its fair game for critisism. I dont know nutin about OTT nor did i comment about their quailty. My point was about the products functioanlity compared to its price so lemme try this again...


this product is for sammy owners... to put a kick tranny and mate it down the line to a zuk t-case - leeme ask u why u wanna do this???


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So you give an opinion about a product and really, you dont understand what it's for..... wtf ? IS it for sami's ??? Rethink and try again. Furthermore, being all one piece now cuz there's no divorced case... whats gonna rip off ? You dont run a married setup so your not talking from experience, where you getting these ideas ? Depot Engineering has not been down this road. Yet.

[Depot]

Originally posted by MuddMachine
..... wtf ? IS it for sami's ??? Rethink and try again. Furthermore, being all one piece now cuz there's no divorced case... whats gonna rip off ?

And I quote from the link u posted....

"The kicker 3™ will allow the Suzuki Samurai owner to mate his Samurai transfercase directly to sidekick low-range gearbox


This adapter aligns and supports the Samurai transfer case under the truck.


Now the Samurai owner can pack a lot of drivetrain under a short wheelbase truck. "

srry bout the bad copy/paste job.. but it says clearly in black and white this is for sammy owners or did depot forget how to read english too? so now that I've rethunk and tried again - how but addressing the whole issue about using a really talled geared kick tranny in a sammy jsut to gear it down again. wtf is up with that crap? i can see if u wanna go auto but thats the only appliaction i can buy that idea for.

as far as divorced vs married, no i dont run it and no i dont have much experience with it - but i do have enough experience with sammy aluminum t-cases and seen enough of em split - seeing where they mate em up, i dont see any reinforcement along the typical breakage line so my concern of them splitting is still there and will be till I see someone run the setup and run it hard.

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[MuddMachine]

Dude, seen the size of the kick tranny vs the sami tranny ??? Plus auto !!! Where you gonna get an auto sami ? And how many trannies have you gone thru now ??? And Im not tryin to pimp this chit to YOU

[Depot]

yep - i've seen the size of the tranny's, still have an auto in my shop and if memory serves me correct I gave u my other auto - they are not small nor light - but hey, they are auto's :) being a fan of the mudd as much as I am, I would never put in an auto - doesnt switch fast enough from D to R and back.

And yes, I've blown up 2 tranny's, threw one out due to a bad leak and am running my 4th used tranny - in what? 3, 4 years now??? I give zuk trannys respect - they are tough, small and light and if ur gonna use my driving habits as a basis for measuring product quality and reliability, then they havnt made a good vehicle out there yet anywhere!

and who are u trying to pimp this chit to anyways??? I have yet to hear any opinions on the product itself from U! wtf? or are u just trying to goat someone into buying and trying it out first so u dont risk anything?

u seem to be all for this product but I havnt heard anything about why? I think its a poor product for sammurai owners and have made numerous points as to why I think that. If u got something to say - say it about the product... and leave me, my driving, my breakage and my purchases the **** alone.

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[MuddMachine]

:roll: :roll: :roll: Actually Id rather use it in a kick. It eliminates a shaft, it's all one piece now , come a little closer :po: