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zc911
November 10th, 2003, 12:33 PM
i was thinking of going with a stock spring and going with a BReeze sping over axle and getting rid of my 4inch springs and 2inch shakles. There is not much flex in the current setup and i was told the shackles are to long causing the truck to ride on the front of the tire.

With 5.5-6.5inch SPOA kit and 3inch body lift, ,my current 33s will be fine right?

Fullload
November 10th, 2003, 03:10 PM
3" body lift Ouch!!!!! I hate the idea of doing a two inch on mine as to avoid using the sawzall too much on mine in order to fit the 36" swampers.
If you do it, don't go over two inches as a max. It will look way too cheezy.
Oh yeah, i remember you saying that you had shitty steering right. Those longer shackles will throw you caster angle off and cause wandering in your steering.
Try just the breeze SPOA and see if your 33"s will fit and then decide if you need more tire room. Muddmachine fits 33's and never lifted his body. But he did have to "trim" a little in the front because of the front axle placement only.

zc911
November 10th, 2003, 03:28 PM
the 3 inch body lift is already on :) And it looks fine becuase of the front bumper, you can;t really notice that there is a body lift.

So is it worth the $250 (plus $100 for shackles) to go spring over? VS what i have now?

Fullload
November 10th, 2003, 03:56 PM
I'd say so. You should save the $100.00 on the shackles from breeze and spend the money on breezes trac bar. When you go Spoa you will need it. I can make you up some bling bling stainless shackles at whatever length you desire. Any time after.

TheSarg
November 10th, 2003, 04:01 PM
i ran a simple SPOA with 31 inch tires and had one hell of a time at Suzican, as i was open diffs i could not do what everybody else did but i had one hell of alot of fun and the truck stayed together, SPOA is the way

Dakguy
November 10th, 2003, 04:12 PM
I would go for it, what a difference!, I purchased my lwb already done but my bro went the DIY on a stocker route. If you want to drive it on the street I would also "spring" for the cross over kit as well. Using the dreaded "Z" link will have you ALL OVER the road, that's NOT an understatement. I added the x-over to mine and man what a difference, I can now have a coffee on my way to the trail and not be tired and scared when I get there. It is a expensive (relative) add on to the lift but more than worth the investment in my books.
Back to the SPOA, also way worth the money. You will notice a big difference in flex, you are changing the forces acting on the springs quite a bit and Sami springs will flex like mad. I wouldn't buck up for new shackles ($100, that's big money for something you can make for about $20), my aformentioned bro bought the 5.5 and runs stock shackles.
Try not to be dissapointed when you open the box from Breeze. The kit does not look like a whole lot when you open the box but if you follow the instructions you can be driving your truck again the same day. Double and triple check you pinion angle before you weld it all up, you'll have to make sure to add the 2 degrees rotation.
As for the 33's, you should be able to do a little massaging with your trusty hammer to the pinch welds in the wheel wells to get most of the clearance you'll need. With a body lift you shouldn't get too much rubbage, the only place I see big friction will be at full stuff turning. Good luck...
:beer:

zc911
November 10th, 2003, 04:29 PM
oooo SS :D i like the sound of that

Ya i planning on getting the Breeze crossover once they get them in stock, another week she said :(
So i am gonna order up the SPOA setup when i order that too

Maybe if it rubs i'll jsut use the 4inch springs with the SPOA and 3 inch body lift, hmmm 6.5 + 4 + 3 = roll over lol :D

Fullload
November 11th, 2003, 01:43 AM
Rollovers I second that for sure. You'll flex like a forklift. But once you spend the money and dial this in properly you will have no trouble with steering issues anymore.

Oh yeah i love my stainless. Thats for sure. Check out these one of a kind rear disc brackets.

Fullload
November 11th, 2003, 01:44 AM
Sorry forgot to attach Try again.

Fullload
November 11th, 2003, 01:45 AM
And one more. Just to prove i hate rust.

zc911
November 11th, 2003, 10:30 AM
hahah flex like a forklift :D

ooo nice, i hate rust too. I'll Pm you once i am ready to install it, a few weeks i would think
Oo i can't wait :)