the crusher

[lil beast]

It has begun....

The donor vehicles are in. First off I have to say THANK YOU to fullload and depot for all their help and I couldn't have brought them home as easily without depots truck and trailer. Try flat towing an "iron pig"(thats what they are known as), these things even made the duramax work hard.

Im gonna weigh the axles and compare them to the P/U axles to see how much weight difference there is.

Many thanks to superzuk for telling me where they were.:beer:

[lil beast]

axle up close

[zc911]

nice
Why did you buy 2 again? The front one looks in decent shape does it run?

[Fullload]

No prob. I'll catch up on my sleep later lol. If your looking for your hammer it is on the drivers side rear spring of the fj40!!!!!

[lil beast]

can you say ground clearence problems???

which one do you think belongs to a zuk...lol

this brings new meaning to "go big or go home"....:D

no they dont run.:(

[lil beast]

still cant get over the size of these things..lol...i love it.

this is just to give you another example.:cool:

[lil beast]

this is whats left of the fj40..:bawl:

[lil beast]

and this:(

[zc911]

holy shit what a difference:eek:

[vanbdan]

cool,looks like you been really busy.I just got certified,and am working on a few parts needed,then we will talk.

[lil beast]

Im on it again, here are a couple more picks.

Van, wana pick up your axles and bring them back l8r? I need a bit more space.

[lil beast]

next is a drop shackle im making.

[KAC]

Pretty heavy duty.:)

[lil beast]

After trying different rotors and not liking the idea of grinding down the diameter of the axle flange i decided to go with a suggestion fulload made and use a zuk rotor. what i did was i removed 5 of the 6 bolts from the axle and lined up one of the wholes in the rotor. notice the centre hole is a perfect fit. then i took a tacoma rotor and put it on top with one stud through a hole and lined up the centre. took a can of spray paint and now i have the holes marked to drill out.:D

[lil beast]

a pic of the zuk rotor

[lil beast]

a pic with the taco rotor on top

[lil beast]

and now the rotor ready to be drilled

[Depot]

does this mean i can have my toy rotor back now? :D

looks nice - good job mister.. when u gonna lift my scout for me? lol

l8r

D

[lil beast]

ya...you can have the '77 rusty old toy rotor back that isnt even good enough to turn....:D give me a call when you want to lift it...ill bring the 12lb sledge:yike

[MuddMachine]

Originally posted by lil beast
still cant get over the size of these things..lol...i love it.

this is just to give you another example.:cool:

Is that axle on the left a toy minitruck axle or a zuk axle ?

And what axle is the one on the right ? To be honest with ya, it dont look like no D60 equivelant. I know some crusher axles are huge but I dont think this is the one Im thinkin of. Looks like it steps down twice.

[lil beast]

steps down three times actually. ALL cruiser axles are 30 spline inners and the one on the right is the cruiser. Who is comparing to a d60?

[MuddMachine]

I do believe the one crusher model has 33 spline axles. What axles are you using fr/rr ? Since it steps down, why dont you stick them in a lathe and lose a few pounds off them. Never heard of this bein done but why not ?

BTW... you got spares ? Reason I ask is cuz they are c-clip axles.

BTW again, lol, what size meats you gonna run ?

[lil beast]

http://www.off-road.com/tlc/faq/axle.html

here is a link for the info I got on the axles. you might be thinking of 33mm, just a thought.

I got spares and if i break all of them, CT carries axles.:D

fronts im not to worried about since the inners are the same as 8"toy's.

Ill be running the 33" baja claws for now and staying sprung under.

When I can afford 35"-36" claws ill do the SPOA.:beer:

[lil beast]

http://home.4x4wire.com/erik/diffs/

here is another link with all kinds of info to those who are running the 7.5"-8" diffs

[MuddMachine]

Thanx for the info. What I meant was........ wich axles are going where ? You had a 40 and a 60, exactly what axles from wich vehicle are you using ?

[lil beast]

no 60's, I have axles from a bj42(canadian version of the fj40) and a bj70(which have the same axles as the bj42). There were only 300 bj70's imported to canada a year and for three years only. The US didnt get any at all.:D

the bj70 had some bj60 parts sittin in the back :ie steering box, springs, trans.

[lil beast]

WTF. I decided to go all the way. When I put the truck on the ground I saw good wheel well space for the tires I have. I took a tape measure to see where the 35's would sit and :yike I wouldnt have any room for up travel, the tire would tare into my wheel wells. I made the decision to go spring over. This is the insane part, SPOA with 5" lifted cj springs..........FAWK, I didnt want to go that high.lol. Im posting some pics.

this is the wheel well space before.

[lil beast]

this is how to cut and turn knuckles on a toy axle.

[lil beast]

another so see the cutting and turning

[lil beast]

this is the rear disc bake bracket for the caliper for the disc conversion

[lil beast]

forgot the pic

[lil beast]

its all fulload's fault for making me cut and turn cuz he just wanted to see how it was done and to see me ruin a perfectly good axle:fa: . Na, he has been a big help in this build, (I needed someone to help me lift the axles out from under the truck). J/K :bo:

This is what i get from him when he is here:fa: :fa: :fa: cant get any work done.:beer: :beer:

[MuddMachine]

Whats with the funky caliper ? What donor did that come from ?

[TheSarg]

Think he said Swift Gt, so he can use the manual parking brake to keep it street legal, Beast's Truck is a driver too, damn ingenious idea if ya ask me

[MuddMachine]

Originally posted by TheSarg
Think he said Swift Gt, so he can use the manual parking brake to keep it street legal, Beast's Truck is a driver too, damn ingenious idea if ya ask me

Great idea, just wonderin how theyre gonna take to mud :yike

If mud's not a problem, this will be a great solution to the parking brake thing.

So beast..... whats the deal with the cables and these calipers ? Is it a problem ? Wanna know how u gonna make it work.



I think once we start puttin 35"+ tires under it along with big diffs and custom steering.... this street legal thing may become a very grey area , if not a serious issue.

[lil beast]

Originally posted by MuddMachine
So beast..... whats the deal with the cables and these calipers ? Is it a problem ? Wanna know how u gonna make it work.

after i set the thing up ill test it out and let you know.




[i]I think once we start puttin 35"+ tires under it along with big diffs and custom steering.... this street legal thing may become a very grey area , if not a serious issue. [/B]

i am taking all the right steps to make it as legal as possible.

Whats the difference of a new tj with 35's and an after market lift vs my set up? nothin.

[MuddMachine]

Originally posted by lil beast
after i set the thing up ill test it out and let you know.





i am taking all the right steps to make it as legal as possible.

Whats the difference of a new tj with 35's and an after market lift vs my set up? nothin.

Are you using the stock ebrake cable ?


Only difference is with your truck and 35's its alot more noticeable than a TJ on 35's.

[lil beast]

Originally posted by MuddMachine
Are you using the stock ebrake cable ?

HELL NO! I got the complete brake system from the hand brake back.



[i]Only difference is with your truck and 35's its alot more noticeable than a TJ on 35's. [/B]

True but there are plenty of them around and I havnt seen any cops cracking down on them. I can see it being a safty issue if a zuk was on a stock wheel base with 40" tires....thats nuts. I have extended the wheel base to around 86-88" from 80.

[lil beast]

it didnt take long to move the perches around and weld them.

[lil beast]

this is the front but the shackle hanger needs to be moved.

[lil beast]

this is wheel well space with a 33 and all the weight on the axles

[zc911]

holy lift batman LOL
looking good though

[Fullload]

Springs will sag ZC911. which will give a better ride and more flex. Cutting and turning the knuckles will be a big benifit and was worth the time to do.
I would not worry about MTO too much with this truck. The main stuff is taken care of and everthing will be properly done.
The only thing that may cause a problem is a rear mudflap. MTO are looking for scary shit like a lifted truck wandering all over the road from lack of steering solutions and adjustments, and just potentionally dangerous stuff.
I would be more worried of the rotten old POS with holes in it all over the place next to me than i would of beasts truck.

[lil beast]

can you say BLING!!!

[lil beast]

here is the difference between the tires.

[vanbdan]

Lookig good LilBeast!
time to change your sig again!

[lil beast]

ok, thanks.

[MuddMachine]

Those look like small 35's (from the manufacturer i mean). Now the question...... how tall does the truck sit (ground to roof) ?

Looks like you got room for 40's.

[lil beast]

34.7 is pretty close to 35. when the springs settle it wont look so high. the fronts started to sag so the angle of the shackle is way off so that needs to be moved. i need to wheel the piss out of it with weight in the back to sag the rear.

[MuddMachine]

Youve had these springs for a few years now havent you ? How much sag are you hopin on ?

You could pull a leaf out of each pack, no ?

[TheSarg]

hehehe i can answer this, he just got them re-arched and they're CJ spring so i dont believe they will sag as fast as Zuk spring but they will sag, he just needs to beat on it!!

[vanbdan]

oh hell,all he has to do is follow Depot a couple of times.I figure if i can try and follow him once,I can see what has to be fixed on mine.

[lil beast]

Originally posted by MuddMachine
Youve had these springs for a few years now havent you ? How much sag are you hopin on ?

You could pull a leaf out of each pack, no ?

Thats what i was thinking but i dont want to pull it out prematurely.lol

[MuddMachine]

Fine line between saggin them down a bit and ruining a good set of springs. If you beat on them too hard you'll kill them, they'll end up like this:

\____/=\____/

Know what I mean ? You'll only get them to sag 2" max before you start to get the "double sag" thing goin on. Id suggest takin them to Hardick and get them to "unarch" them a bit.

I'm tellin ya... :argue:

[Terranaut]

Rig is looking good Beast !!

[lil beast]

Oh ya, wanna know why the tires look small?

[screech]

guess well have to start calling you BIG BEAST
looks good!!!:beer:

[MLC]

i agree ....it is no longer little it's BIG

[lil beast]

doin the fozzy lock in the rear for now till the lockers come in sometime in june.....




























2007


:beer:

[lil beast]

another

[lil beast]

forgot the pic

[lil beast]

all cleaned up and ready for install

[MuddMachine]

So you never said....... what are you going to do about the ride height ?

[lil beast]

Originally posted by MuddMachine
So you never said....... what are you going to do about the ride height ?

Notin, I like it.:bo:

here are some more pics, the truck is on it tires. The only thing left to do is the d shafts, brakes, shocks.

[lil beast]

here is some booty fab. the reason i did this is to keep the springs inline as the perches and plates are for a 2.5" spring and im using the 2" cj"s. This way i can eliminate the need for those clamps they wrap the spings with and that will give me a bit more droop.

[lil beast]

next is the steering arm, most of the arms i have seen have the king pin section cut off the upper arm. To me this makes the arm alot weaker. Brian took the upper and lower arm to work and ground them down smooth so they sit flush with each other. The king pin was cut off at the same time and the both of them are through bolted and welded toghether.

Thanks again Fullload:beer:

[KAC]

Did you use the tapered cones on the steering arm?

[lil beast]

Originally posted by KAC
Did you use the tapered cones on the steering arm?

No. they are through bolted with gr8 metric bolts.

[zc911]

That is looking great.

just outta curiosity, where did you get grade8 metric bolts?

[MuddMachine]

Originally posted by lil beast
No. they are through bolted with gr8 metric bolts.

Welded arm, no studs, no cones, on a truck that'll be driven on the street ???

Im devestated.... :yike :yike :yike

[Depot]

those gr 8 through bolts, did u manage to keep the cone washers that were origanaly in the kingpin? If not, u will find those through bolts will slowly back off and ur king pin arms will losen. I had the same prob with mine. If yah clean out the grease real good and use some blue locktite it helps a lot. red if ur brave enough.

Also, the angle of ur steering arm rod end... u might find it binds up when u turn ur wheel all the way to one side and the tire droops or stuffs. I had to heat my arms up and twist em till they were a bit flatter that what u see now. Works mint but then u have to truss em cause they will revert back to the original position - damn memmory.

just a couple suggestions for yah but it looks awesome buddy.

l8r

D

[lil beast]

Originally posted by MuddMachine
Welded arm, no studs, no cones, on a truck that'll be driven on the street ???

Im devestated.... :yike :yike :yike

ahhh come onnn. I would trust this thing with my life and i guess i will. I have seen some arms out there that dont look as strong as this one and they hold up pretty good to some hard trail shit.

the weld is just to fit in the gap as both arms are still comlete.

Thanks depot for the advise and i was going to locktite the piss outa it(and still will) i just wanted to get the thing toghether.

[Fullload]

Depot the arms will be heated and twisetd to get a better rod angle. when i sanded them i took em over to the shear and cut a couple of trusses to help with the heat stress that the steel sees.
Who ever has a Metric tapered reamer and wants to let us borrow it to make the original cones fit we will do it , but for now i think that it is plenty strong. It is twice the thickness of an original arm and you never see one of them break. Like beast said the only reason why the weld is there is to help keep the two arms from trying to wander away from each other.
The same arms will be run on my truck too.
Zc911 the bolts came from a suppier that specializes in metric fasteners in Mississauga Called Fabory or fabroy. Be very careful and make sure what you order is what you want cause they are ISO 9000 whatever and there is more paperwork and bull you have to go throught than what the bolts are worth.

[zc911]

sweet thanks for the info

[lil beast]

I had a couple of you ask what happened to all the pics of my build.

Well I had to pull it out of the garage to get fullloads ready for may 24.

Only a couple of things left and thats the e brake, shocks and track bar.

I did run into a couple of problems with the rear shaft, found a bad u joint and the rear pinion bearing is gone so there is still a bit of work left.

Here is a pic of the truck before I drove it out back.

[zc911]

that looks great!
you should paint you axle housing black :)

i hope mine comes out that good after the axle swap :D

[vanbdan]

Nice work ,BIG BEAST!.Hey I recognize Fullloads,but is there another in the herd,up bye the garage?

[lil beast]

uuuhhhh zc....thats primer:roll: still need to mount the shocks and other shit so painting it nice woulnt be wise right now.

Van, no its a cruiser.

[lil beast]

here is a view from the front

[TheSarg]

Dat looks sweet bro, those Pro comps on 8 inch rims or do they just look kinda narrow??? Still a wicked footprint for crawling, but i like the stance of a bit narrower tire then a bogger.

Cant wait to wheel with ya this year Big_Beast:beer:

[zc911]

Originally posted by lil beast
uuuhhhh zc....thats primer:roll: still need to mount the shocks and other shit so painting it nice woulnt be wise right now.

Van, no its a cruiser.

didin;t mena now i ment when you are done

[lil beast]

Im gonna paint them ZC911 yellow:ro:

LOL j/k:beer:

They will probrably be black.

[zc911]

:D

[MuddMachine]

Fawkin sweet dude, right on ! ...... :beer: