pipe bender

[stress]

any suggestions where to buy a half decent bender to build cages and roll bars,manual or hydraulic? thanx!!!

[Depot]

do a search!!!!


had to be the first to say that didnt I? LMFAO


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[gordZuki]

u for the ever important fawker .... but man it sure does feel like pirate in here ... aside from that i heard princess has a great deal on a bender ... wish i was down near one to stop in and grab one

[zc911]

princess atuo benders SUCK, they are pipe benders not tube benders

[Mud Lite]

Nothing wrong with PA pipe benders unless you can afford over 1000 for a tube bender. If used correctly and designed properly, a pipe cage is as good as any tube cage. I would rather people use pipe then nothing at all.

[Depot]

I use pipe = cheap, simple, easy.. bender, dies and material all inexpensive - just heavy. for pipe (sched 40 or 80) princess auto bender rocks!

tube - dunno - not my area.


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[Mud Lite]

lets put this whole weight thing into perspective.

Pipe weighs 1lb more for a 3' length
a standard add-a cage will be from 30-100' of material.
so a standard cage weighs a max of 30lbs more than a tube cage.
my gas tank uses more than 30lbs of gas in one trip.

Lets look at strength. Show me a pipe cage that has failed.

[Fullload]

I agree, for the sake of 30lbs i will be running pipe. We are not driving 100miles an hour nascar style (well except for depot) so i think a pipe cage would be more than capable to do the job.

[lil beast]

Huummmmm, I thought I brought this up last year b4 suzican.....then I bought a PIPE bender and never looked back.

We havent encountered the lions back in canada yet so we wont need a full blown race cage. just enough to keep us safe from a roll over at 10mph. Unless your Depot:beer:

[zc911]

when i picked up the princerss atuo bender it was a pain to use to get nice angles, and it would not bend thin stuff.

[Depot]

nor would it, its a pipe bender, designed for bending sched 40 or even 80 if ur brave enough witht the corrert dies.

i.e. the 1 inch die - stamped 1 inch on the side (duh) is designed for sched 40 1 inch pipe with an inner diameter of 1 inch and an outer diameter of about 1 3/8's. Now if grabbed some thin tube - say 1 inch inner again but only 1 1/8 outer, it would flatten like a panpake in that die since it was so much smaller than the die. u wanna do thin stuff like tube, get a tube bener, if u wanna do pipe, use a pipe bender.. sounds simple eh? :beer:

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[zc911]

yup thats why i got a tube bender :)

[Depot]

kewl man, I'll be right over to borrow that when I win the lotto! :D


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[Mudslug]

pipe is good, tube is better

They both have thier own ups and downs it just comes down to what you are comfortable with. If you are OK with Pipe surrounding your ass and your careful then pipe it is...

just my opinion.

[MuddMachine]

I had a shop in Bolton right across from "69 Auto Racing", known Canada wide in the Cascar curcuit. He built cars from scratch right there in the shop. Cagework ? Of course, lots of it. Material ? MUFFLER PIPE !!!!!!!!!!! Thats right, muffler pipe. Before you beak off about it, he's been building race cars like this for the last 25 years. Keep in mind in a stock car there is way more cross bracing than WE would prefer.

[zc911]

you goota be shitting me, MUFFLER TUBE
No way are you sure, that stuff woul fold up in a crash especially at cascar speeds. You sure it just didin;t look like muffler tube?
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And Depot you can use the bedner if you need it no problem

[MuddMachine]

Originally posted by zc911
you goota be shitting me, MUFFLER TUBE


No, Im not shitting you, I know Jimmy very well and his work is in VERY HIGH demand. They are designed to take an impact. If it was all made from sched 40 pipe it would weigh 10,000 lbs and would have no crumple zone.

[Mudslug]

Can't be muffler pipe, it would pass inspection no doubt about it. Hell they won't even let you use HREW tubing for cages in dragsters.

Its probably thinwall chromo or somthing like that.

I remember reading about a guy that paid for a cage made out of a certain thinkness of chromom tubing and he was killed in his first crash. When they cut the cage open it was 1/2 the thinkness he paid for....huge lawsuit and he went to jail for fraud.

[zc911]

ya for sure, even SCCA amature road racing has strick standards for roll cages. A small hole is usually drilled to check the thickness (which i forget what it has to be), and for this year it even has to be DOM
So there is NO way cascar would let exhasut tubing fly. That would be a death trap

[Mudslug]

If I remember correctly the rules state "must be .095 wall tubing or 1/4 inch shedule 40 pipe" then it goes on about no welded seem tubing blah blah."

Its all DOM know though....by the way all there is a steel shortage coming...stock up now

[MuddMachine]

Go see for yourself. It cant be, it cant be, here: 91 Healey rd. Bolton. Cant miss it, he takes up 3 units.

[Mudslug]

He may build it with muffler tube but no one is racing with muffler tube..the tech people would not go for it....

Bolton?!? Fawk that....too far.

[lil beast]

Hey Mudd... when you commin down? Ill go with ya and see for myself and that would be another form of proof.:D

Is it or isn't it..............

[zc911]

Originally posted by Mudslug
If I remember correctly the rules state "must be .095 wall tubing or 1/4 inch shedule 40 pipe" then it goes on about no welded seem tubing blah blah."

Its all DOM know though....by the way all there is a steel shortage coming...stock up now

Steel shortage, nuts, i like my low pice steel haha

[zc911]

Originally posted by MuddMachine
Go see for yourself. It cant be, it cant be, here: 91 Healey rd. Bolton. Cant miss it, he takes up 3 units.

IS he open satrudays i'll be drving past bolton this weekend

[MuddMachine]

More than likely.