lift kits for samurai

[tracker975]

I have been looking into different lift kits and have seen some interesting configurations.I would like to stay in the 4-5 inch range and try to get 31-33inch tires under my sami.I have seen a couple but i am not quite sure what to get.I noticed that there are bolt on spring over axle lifts but to me they don't seem to safe.I think i am leaning towards the spoa lift from spidertrax.Does anyone have any other thoughts on this or should i stay away from the spoa lifts altogether.If anyone has a used lift for sale you could possibly pull it out of the corner dust it off and sell it to this poor bastard.As always thanks for the help in advance.

[zc911]

breezeindustries.com (or .ca)
have nice SPOA kits but require welding
Only $230 candian so like $5 us :D

[Depot]

SPOA - is prolly the easiest thing to do for lift to get upto 33's under it. Realistically, its not that hard to do - if u can cut and weld ur laughing. I personally would not buy a spoa kit - it takes so much away from the fun of buildign ur own truck - IMHO! not to mention u'll learn a lot more doing it hands on from scratch than instling a kit. if u want a step by step or more detailed info on how to do it urself, just ask and Im sure a few of us will jump i n and blurb on till u get it right :)

GL

D

[tracker975]

Well then spoa it is, as for building my own i think i will leave that to you big guns.I can handle installs,cutting,welding and some minor fabrication but as far as doing a whole suspension i think ill pass.Should i go with a weld on or is a bolt on suitable.I have seen bolt ons that i can put 33's under but i don't think i would be as confident with a bolt on as i would a welded one.If anyone has a used one i would be interested in buying it.

[Screwen]

if you can cut and weld then you can do a SOA

it isnt nearly as hard as you think it is

grab a couple buddies a case of beer and geterdone!

[MuddMachine]

It is easy........

Remove driveshafts.

Remove brake lines and ebrake.

Undo shackles front and rear.

Pull diffs out.

weld perches on top side of diff.

Weld on new shock mounts.

Put on extended brake lines.

done.

[tracker975]

Sounds like i can handle that.I am ordering one on thursday hopefully this assf--k jersey weather will give me a break.Any tips i should know about rear angles or driveshaft lengths.If you are wondering how i can post all day and nite i am home with pneumonia (assf--k jersey weather).

[vanbdan]

hey hey now whatch the whining thats my job! :beer:

[TheSarg]

From what ive been theached (heh) never make yer rear pinion angle over %5 above stock, and the front try not to change the pinion angle at all cause the pinion gear wont get oiled.

Somebody jump on this if im wrong, but thats how ive set up all my zooks and havent had a prob yet.

33's are a bit of a stretch for just a SPOA, so another suggestion if you dont do alot of massive flexing would be the Calmini shackle reversal kit. Comes in 2 flavours: stock or 2.5 inch lift ( from what i remember).

I had the SPOA and the shackle reversal kit on one of my zuks and ran 34's and it was perfect.

Dont forget about gears.
for 31 inch tires grab 2 front ring and pinions out of scrapped trackers or sidekicks (automatic only)= 4:62

for 33 inch tires grab out of the same vehicles only out of a 5 speed = 5:13 gears. dont grab the rears cause they wont werk, u need fronts only, and i highly reccomend changing the ring and pinion into the stock metal case as the sidekick housing is aluminum.

Hope this helps.

Sarg

[MuddMachine]

If youre not experienced at all, lifting it for 33's may be a bit overwhelming for ya.

:confused:

[vanbdan]

Hey Mudd,do you mean mechanically?....Just curious as I m doing this too,for the first time.
Hey tracker975,if you can handle welding,cutting,installs,and minor fabrication,then it sounds like you just described a SPOA....
I'm doing mine,and if I can do it you can do it,
I cant weld,but through a little chatting,I got someone to do it for me,(just the perches),some one that knows what they are doing,with a good reputation,and through trial and error,and bitchen' and whinin',I WILL do this. The guys on this board will help you out ,and then critique you as well,and flame you when you need it too!Get rid of that assf--kin pneumonia and get it!Like MM said,grab some beer,and a few buddies,and do it.

[zookienewf]

I was talking to a guy last fall that had done a spoa on his sammy and couldn't drive it until he resolved the problem with the steering linkage. The linkage was hitting on the springs and only had about 40% steering left or right.
Any insite on this issue as I want to do this with mine in the summer.

:beer:

[vanbdan]

I would sugest checking with www.breezeindustries.com
they are a Canadian manufacture of aftermarket Suzuki parts.they have quality parts!Also check with Lucy on this board,as I believe she is also a vendor/supplier.........Am I correct on this?

[MuddMachine]

Originally posted by zookienewf
The linkage was hitting on the springs and only had about 40% steering left or right.

:beer:

Cheeze method = Z-link

Proper method = Crossover Steering

Problem solved




On another note...

Stock springs need work to run 33's

Driveshaft may interfere with x-member when setup to run 33's

Tires may rub excessively with 33's

Newbies may break alot of parts on 33's

Definitely need gears with 33's

31's can get by without gears if you have a decent mill, but gears would be nice.

Set of gears around (depending who you buy them from) $200-$300.

T-case gears are a way to avoid differential gears but are more costly.

T-case gears may not be as desireable as they are made out to be due to our terrain (my opinion) especially with small tires.

MOST zook parts wear faster with 33's or bigger, ie. bearings, steering linkages.


I went to hell and back again on 31's :D

[Fullload]

Originally posted by zookienewf
I was talking to a guy last fall that had done a spoa on his sammy and couldn't drive it until he resolved the problem with the steering linkage. The linkage was hitting on the springs and only had about 40% steering left or right

I ran a "Z" link for a while and had that spring rubbing problem when my springs sagged and went into a negative arch.
Make sure yours springs are in decent condition, and you may avoid that problem.
But like MM said the best solution is crossover.

[tracker975]

Through proper thought and picking the best suzuki brains i could find this is what i plan to do

spoa with 31 inch bf goodrich mud terrrains
4:62 gears from a junk yard
rear locker
crossover steering

would anyone happen to have any of these parts used to save this poor bastard a little cash.:bawl:

I live in jersey i have earned my whining merit badge and come from a state of whiners can't help it.Don't want to step on your toes but i can't help it.

[vanbdan]

Originally posted by tracker975
spoa with 31 inch bf goodrich mud terrrains
4:62 gears from a junk yard
rear locker
crossover steering

would anyone happen to have any of these parts used to save this poor bastard a little cash.:bawl:

I live in jersey i have earned my whining merit badge and come from a state of whiners can't help it.Don't want to step on your toes but i can't help it.



you made me laugh out loud at the computer,that doesn't happen often-thanks!
btw;I like the combination,basically what I'm going for
SPOA with 32''mud rovers/mud kings
4:62'swith disc brake conversion
lok-rite in the rear
Breeze Ind. drop drag link


sorry I cant help you with any parts,but maybe talk to this guy,he's closer to you than I am
http://www.zookpower.ca/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=891

[tracker975]

Hey van thanks for the tip i go up there quite often.I have property in ny state i use for snowmobiling among other things.
hopefully he can help me.WWWWWWWWWWaaahhhhhhhhhhh
I dont feel gooooood.See there i go again.Am i the only east coast guy in here

[Fullload]

Did you not get the PM i sent you???

[zc911]

i have 33s
Whats done is 4inch lift springs, 1-2inch lift with shackles, and a 3inch body lift.
Thats the minimum lift i would say to get 33s based on the ocasiasional rubbing on the fender flares when flexing with the steering cracked all the way to the left.
I also have the breeze crossover steering and that is defintaly a worth while investment, $400 (canadian) well spent.
If you do a body lift, you'll ahve to make the steering shaft longer to reach the steering box. I used 2 steering shafts and welded them together wich got rid of that dumbass rag joint (that alone made the steering better)

[Depot]

expanding on last post.. shackles can do a fair bit of lift to... I like 6 inch shackles personally but then again I like leaving my gouges in the rocks that pop up from mother nature at me! :D my shackles are 8 in overall but the bolt holes are 6 inch on center. for every 2 inches u increase ur shackle height, it gives u 1 inch of lift. If ur gonna do this, do it B4 u weld on ur new perches as it will change ur pinion angles and steering capabilities.


gl

D

[tracker975]

This little rig will be for work as well as play.It will be a daily driver so i don't really want to get to high(my truck that is).I drive about 60 miles back and forth to work.So i need to make it fun and functional (please don't kick me out now)

[zc911]

i am in the same boat as you, i drive it everyday

[Lucy]

Originally posted by vanbdan
Also check with Lucy on this board,as I believe she is also a vendor/supplier.........Am I correct on this?


Sorry, I don't actually deal with Breeze, the best SPOA kit I have is the Spidertrax 4.5....all the guys I've sold that kit to have been quiet happy with it ,pm me if you'd like anymore info.